[comp.sys.amiga.tech] 2500UX and AmigaDOS

ag@cbmvax.UUCP (Keith Gabryelski) (11/08/89)

In article <636@crash.cts.com> jeffw@pro-graphics.cts.com (Jeff Waltzer)
writes:
>I hear that there are Commodore trying to port UNIX to the AMIGA.

This is true.  The Amix (Amiga Unix) Development Team has been working
on one port of SysV for well over a year.  We are currently working
System V Release 4.0, which we showed at last week's Unix Exposition.
We were in the AT&T booth showing this brand new port with several
other 4.0 porters.

>From what I hear there should be something soon, but I don't know much
>more.

We are looking at the early 1990 time frame.

>Does anybody know which AMIGAs it will work on?

The A2500 will be an A2000 with a 68030 co-processor board in it (like
the 68020 board is now).  It will also run on the 68020.

In article <137@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> johnl@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (John
Lindwall) writes:
>Whoah! Reality check here!  Did you really mean _Release 4.0_ ?   4? Four?
>F-O-U-R?  Pardon my incredulous look, but this would be too cool.  Did you
>see the system running ?  Are there any surprising details to note?

>Folks in the Atari group (while lamenting vaporware products from
>Atari) have been implying that Unix on the Amiga is a vaporware
>product.

This is incorrect.  It has been used for over a year for developement
of Amix.  Of course a year ago it was only SysV 3.1 but it is pretty
solid.

SysV 4.0 has a solid kernel but it is a little way from a shipping
product.

In article <981@dialogic.UUCP> gerry@dialogic.UUCP (Gerry Lachac) writes:

>The Good News:
>
>The Amiga 2500 was at the UNIXexpo in the UNIX International booth.
>At that booth, they were about 10 different architectures
>demonstrating UNIX System V.4 (Absolutely beautiful OS, I was
>drooling over the enhancements)

System V "it's in there" 4.0 is large.  It is a hog but it has a lot
to offer: Sockets, NFS, RFS, X Windows, Streams, and the file system
switch.

>What I like about this is that CBM will only need to support V.4 and
>never have to worry about V3.2 since they are releasing a version of
>it (at least that's what I assume. I don't know so for a fact. Anyone
>at CBM care to comment?)

This is true.  I am very happy with this decision also.

>The Bad News:
>
>If I didn't know better, I would never consider purchasing an Amiga.
>They had the Amy's hooked up to Moniterm monitors which were a sickly
>yellow white.  The screen looked like old parchment. No color
>monitors. The X-window demo was really lame.  The CBM rep. wasn't the
>most helpful. (The demo was a train using ASCII graphics.  Sort of an
>old VT100 animations)

First, this was a technology exposition.  The port of System V Release
4.0 is not finished.  In fact, Mike and I were still working on parts
of it until 6:00am the day of the show.

Second, you did not see an X-window demo.  You saw a curses demo.  The
X-window demo was on the other side of the booth.  The demo you saw
was lame, sorry, but it was what we were given to show.

Third, the guy you probably talked to was the new Amix Marketing Guy.
He wasn't very helpful because he'd never seen Amix System V.4 before.
This is probably not the best excuse, but I am sure we will have it
together for the next show.

Mike "Ford" Ditto, Richard "Rude Dog" Skrenta, and I [The Team(TM)]
were on the other side of the booth showing off X-window in Hedley
mode.  It was quite nice although not in color.  X in color is here it
just wasn't presentable for the show.

In article <6248@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> chip@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (Chip Christ)
writes:
>It's not ready for release, only because CBM wants to be sure that
>the SVR4 base is really stable, they claim.  According to the guy
>with whom I spoke, CBM was this far (thumb & index finger held about
>1/4 inch apart ;-) from releasing an SVR3 based Amix when 4.0 became
>available to vendors, so they decided to go with it.

You spoke to Mike Ditto.  This is all true.

In article <1013@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
>In article <20332@ut-emx.UUCP> hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Henry J. Cobb)
>writes:
>|In article <23539@cup.portal.com> morris-ng@cup.portal.com (Yuklung
>|Morris Ng) writes:
>|>
>|>"The latest addition to the Amiga 2000 series is the Amiga
>|>2500UX... features a 100 MB hard drive and a 25 MHz, 32-bit
>|>Motorola 68030 processor..."
>|
>|Does this mean that the delay in shipping Amix was caused by a bug
>|in the 2620 MMU?  Or just that an O'30 doesn't cost much, compared
>|to an unix license?

No, Amix works fine on a 020 and 030 board.

>	The 3 biggest problems in shipping Amix are
>
>		1. Support
>		1. Support
>		1. Support

This is somewhat incorrect.  Support for Amix is not solid right now.
Currently CATS does some of the support and the rest is handled by the
software team .

>there is no dealer support;

Let us get a product out there first.

>and no formal C= marketing strategy as far as can be seen.

This is not true but commenting further on marketing strategies is not
within my power.

In article <Nov.7.09.06.26.1989.2184@topaz.rutgers.edu>
giovanne@topaz.rutgers.edu (Steve Giovannetti) writes:
>Is it possible that their might be two partitions on the disk, an
>AmigaDos partition and a Unix partition, so that one could switch
>environments by rebooting?

You can and will be able to do this.

Pax, Keith


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