maurie@jtsv16.UUCP (Maurie Danko) (02/02/90)
Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of NeWS (windowing system) for the Amiga?
Then please do.
___________________________________________________________________________
Maurie Danko JTS Computer Systems Ltd .|
Toronto, Canada 1 (416) 665-8910 | Remember:
email: maurie@jtsv16.jts.com | If 2 people agree on everything
OR {suncan|geac|uunet}!jtsv16!maurie | Then 1 of them is REDUNDANT.bmacintyre@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Blair MacIntyre) (02/06/90)
maurie@jtsv16.UUCP (Maurie Danko) writes: >Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of NeWS (windowing system) for the Amiga? >Then please do. Well, my suggestion would be to phone Sun and ask if anyone has ported it to the Amiga. If not, buy a source licence and port it ... we'd all be very happy! :-) :-) -- -- Blair MacIntyre, Professional Leech on Society ( aka CS Graduate Student ) -- bmacintyre@{watcgl, watdragon, violet}.{waterloo.edu, UWaterloo.ca} -- Date, verb: prearranged socializing with intent.
root@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Systems Staff) (02/08/90)
In article <1290@jtsv16.UUCP> maurie@jtsv16.UUCP (Maurie Danko) writes: >Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of NeWS (windowing system) for the Amiga? >Then please do. >___________________________________________________________________________ >Maurie Danko JTS Computer Systems Ltd .| Ameristar Technology did a port of one of the early (pre-1.0) versions of the NeWS windowing system. The system was never released as a product. People wanting a network windowing system on the Amiga should check out the X11 offering by GfxBase. Rick Spanbauer Ameristar Technology
mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (Under Construction) Meyer) (02/09/90)
>> People wanting a network windowing system on the Amiga should check out >> the X11 offering by GfxBase. >> >> Rick Spanbauer >> Ameristar Technology What should those of us who want a server with a spiffy interpretive interface (ala Postscript & psh) do, then? <mike -- Don't tell me how to live my life Mike Meyer Don't tell me what to do mwm@berkeley.edu Repression is always brought about ucbvax!mwm by people with politics and attitudes like you. mwm@ucbjade.BITNET
root@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Systems Staff) (02/09/90)
In article <MWM.90Feb8135438@raven.pa.dec.com> mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (Under Construction) Meyer) writes: >>> People wanting a network windowing system on the Amiga should check out >>> the X11 offering by GfxBase. >>> >>> Rick Spanbauer >>> Ameristar Technology > >What should those of us who want a server with a spiffy interpretive >interface (ala Postscript & psh) do, then? > > <mike >-- >Don't tell me how to live my life Mike Meyer That's easy: start a company, buy NeWS license from Sun, port X11/NeWS, and sell the results as AmigaNeWS. Sell 25 copies. Or input the necessary cycles into building up ghostscript and then use it with the X11 port. Or one could always drop $100K (?) on Adobe and ask them to port Display Postscript to the Amiga. Seriously, I like NeWS as much as the next guy but unless someone wants to go broke trying to sell it in the Amiga market, the X11 port is the only real solution to a networking window system on AmigaDOS. What happens under Amiga Unix is another story, of course. Rick
dlleigh@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Darren Leigh) (02/09/90)
In article <MWM.90Feb8135438@raven.pa.dec.com> mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (Under Construction) Meyer) writes: >>> People wanting a network windowing system on the Amiga should check out >>> the X11 offering by GfxBase. > >What should those of us who want a server with a spiffy interpretive >interface (ala Postscript & psh) do, then? You could use the "Winterp" widgit interpreter in combination with X11. Winterp is based on xlisp and provides interpretive access to X widgits and most (all?) of Xlib. Depending on exactly how you want this set up, it could be easy or hard, i.e. porting it to run completely on the Amy would be the worst case. If you're just going to use the the Amy as a display server this would be trivial. If you don't like X you could roll your own windowing system. I've been toying with the idea of re-writing Postscript with scheme to use as the base graphics language for a new interpretive network-transparent windowing system. Face it, X sucks. NeWS costs money and has its own problems. Be creative. Darren Leigh dlleigh@media-lab.media.mit.edu
mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (Under Construction) Meyer) (02/10/90)
The question was: >What should those of us who want a server with a spiffy interpretive >interface (ala Postscript & psh) do, then? Answer 1: >> Or input the necessary cycles into building up ghostscript and then use it >> with the X11 port. Why in Finagle's name would I use it with the X11 port, when I could use it with the Amiga direct? >> Or one could always drop $100K (?) on Adobe and ask them to port >> Display Postscript to the Amiga. Be cheaper to buy a NeXT box :-). >> the X11 port is the only real solution to a networking window >> system on AmigaDOS. In which case, I'm glad that's not the problem I'm solving. I'm trying to find an environment that's as much fun as the NeWS environment. >> What happens under Amiga Unix is another story, of course. As the saying goes, if I wanted a Unix box, I woulda bought a Unix box. Answer 2: >> You could use the "Winterp" widgit interpreter in combination with >> X11. Winterp is not the solution. It's a better tool for building applications than gwm, but not than NeWS. For instance, I'd like to see the NeWS transparent clock done in winterp. >> I've been toying with the idea of re-writing Postscript with scheme >> to use as the base graphics language for a new interpretive >> network-transparent windowing system. So have lots of people. Before you actually start, you might want to look at gjc's siod. The latest version has the "lisp" part of the code lifted into a (link-time) library specifically so it can be wrapped up with other applications. AREXX+RexxARPLib is the closest thing to the answer. And it's still got problems (that transparent clock hack is just hard to copy!). <mike -- All around my hat, I will wear the green willow. Mike Meyer And all around my hat, for a twelve-month and a day. mwm@berkeley.edu And if anyone should ask me, the reason why I'm wearing it, ucbvax!mwm It's all for my true love, who's far far away. mwm@ucbjade.BITNET