[net.micro] Printers and Their Repair

GOEKE@mit-mc.arpa (02/04/83)

From:  Robert F. Goeke <GOEKE@mit-mc.arpa>

	It will come as no surprise to most of you on this list that
printers do, on occasion, fail.  What may come as a surprise to you is
the degree of difficulty encountered in getting them fixed!

	Item number 1: a Centronics Model 737, about 1 1/2 years old, 
broke it's plastic cam which loads the print head onto the platen. I'm
in Boston, the company is in southern NH, and the best they could come
up with was for us to send it to a factory service center in Syosset, NY.
We sent it out on January 9, they logged it in on January 24, and one week
later sent it back with the bill: $150 flat rate plus $25 for an invoicing
fee (and then they invoiced the wrong address) plus $3 for shipping.
$178 to fix a cam on a $400 printer!  FOO ! ! !

	Item number 2: an Epson MX-80FT, about 8 months old, started to have
flakey things happen to it's serial interface card.  Well, we have another
Epson, with another flakey card, but since it has different flakes we could
do some intelligent chip swapping.  We now know that a new 8048 (that's a 
CPU plus ROM) would fix things fine.  It should cost $5 plus handling.  One
small ploblem: neither the factory nor a local independent repair store will
sell us the chip!  Just send us the board and we'll look at it!  But my system
is flakey, not dead; and I don't want to be dead (which I will be if
I send the whole card out) until someone, somewhere gets around to 
looking at it, for some unspecified price.

	Question: are there any (in a service sense) reasonable vendors
of printers in this world?  

CSTROM@mit-mc.arpa (02/05/83)

From:  Charlie Strom <CSTROM@mit-mc.arpa>

If it makes you feel any better, you are not alone! I had an Okidata
82A die on me - it ended up to be akin to a lightening strike (though
the sun was shining) and required change of the microprocessor, a
driver and the buffer in-between the two as well as the printhead. All
but the latter were available locally (though at ridiculous prices -
the Big Apple is small potatoes when it comes to electronic parts.)
The printhead (as well as an excellent technical manual) had to come
from Okidata in N.J. The hitch was that they will not accept purchase
orders unless a check accompanies it; also nixx on C.O.D.'s.
In a similar vein, we had a Televideo 912 (ughh) dies and traced it to
the microprocessor. Televideo has a $50 min., and will not accept
C.O.D.'s or P.O.'s either. So, we tried to get the chip through a TI
distributor. To make an aggravating story short, we are still waiting
for the chip after about a month and expect another month of
thumb-twiddling.
Info like this is most valuable BEFORE one makes the next purchase,
isn't it?!

Cory.cc-treas@ucb-vax.arpa (02/06/83)

Does "Big Blue" (i.e. IBM) market a serial printer?   If they do, its 
probably better servicewise than some of these other flakey companies.

                              Steve Wolff
                              cc-treas@ucbcory

bernie (02/11/83)

"Big Blue" is marketing the Epson MX-80 with a different case color and an IBM
label on the front.  Any Computerland store should be able to service it, but
they may require that you prove you bought the printer from a store in the
Computerland chain.  I've been running an MX-82 for about a year and a half now,
and have had no problems whatsoever.
 				--Bernie Roehl
				...decvax!utzoo!watmath!watarts!bernie