johnf@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (06/29/90)
I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. I have looked through the public domain sources on the net, and have found two programs which write font files (FontEditor from Fish Disk 30 and MacFont from Fish Disk 138), but source is not provided for either of these programs. So I am a little lost; how do you create new fonts? Any documentation or example source code would be appreciated. The application is an X11-Amiga font converter. (Speaking of which, I am also having trouble finding out how X11 font files are layed out. If anybody happens to know that, too, I'd be grateful.) Thank you, John John Flanagan Center for EUV Astrophysics johnf@ssl.berkeley.edu University of California (...!ucbvax!soc1.ssl!johnf) Berkeley, CA 94720 Manners Maketh Man. (415) 643-6308
dwatts@ki.UUCP (Dan Watts) (07/03/90)
In article <1990Jun28.173030.18051@agate.berkeley.edu> you write: >I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. >I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of >the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the >actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. I've not seen a response to this request yet. I also would like to know what the font file layout is as I'd like to design some of my own fonts. Does anyone know what the layout is? I'd like to use DPaintIII to design my fonts. Is it possible to cut from here and generate a font file? Dan Watts -- ##################################################################### # CompuServe: >INTERNET:uunet.UU.NET!ki!dwatts Dan Watts # # UUCP : ...!uunet!ki!dwatts Ki Research, Inc. # ############### New Dimensions In Network Connectivity ##############
barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) (07/03/90)
The magazine TRANSACTOR FOR THE AMIGA (now defunct) had two
articles on font file structure, by Betty Clay. I don't know what issues
had these articles. The first article was about font file structure, and
the second was about the changes to fonts in AmigaDOS 1.3.
Try to find a friend who has these issues.
Dan
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\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////////seh@pmafire.UUCP (Steve Holaday) (07/03/90)
>>John Flanagan writes: >>I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. >>I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of >>the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the >>actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. >Dan Watts writes: >I've not seen a response to this request yet. I also would like to know >what the font file layout is as I'd like to design some of my own fonts. >Does anyone know what the layout is? I'd like to use DPaintIII to design >my fonts. Is it possible to cut from here and generate a font file? There was an excellent article in Volume 1 Issue 1 of the Amiga Transactor (April 1988) on pages 59-62. It was by Betty Clay and was called "And What Are Little Fonts Made Of?". -- mail: seh@pmafire.UUCP Steve Holaday or !uunet!pmafire!seh I *HATE* long signature files!
nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) (07/04/90)
In article <803@ki.UUCP>, dwatts@ki.UUCP (Dan Watts) writes: > In article <1990Jun28.173030.18051@agate.berkeley.edu> you write: > >I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. > >I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of > >the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the > >actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. > > Dan Watts There was an article in an early Transactor, probably #1.3 or #1.4, by Betty Clay that did a real good job of explaining these. I'm not sure where you can find old copies these days but the article sounds like what you need. ---Mike -- A man said to the Universe "Sir, I exist!" | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD "However," replied the Universe, | DLA Systems Automation Center "The fact has not created in me a | Columbus, Ohio sense of obligation."- Stephen Crane | mfigg@dsac.dla.mil CIS: 73777,360
johnf@stew.ssl.berkeley.edu (John Flanagan) (07/04/90)
In article <1990Jul03.150016.11411@pmafire.UUCP> seh@pmafire.UUCP (Steve Holaday) writes: >>>John Flanagan writes: >>>I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. ... >>Dan Watts writes: >>I've not seen a response to this request yet. I also would like to know >>what the font file layout is as I'd like to design some of my own fonts. > >There was an excellent article in Volume 1 Issue 1 of the Amiga >Transactor (April 1988) on pages 59-62. It was by Betty Clay >and was called "And What Are Little Fonts Made Of?". Unfortunately, this is the one issue of Transactor I don't have. And since they are out of business, I don't imagine I can back-order it. I would appreciate it if anybody would let me see this article. Isn't there any official documentation from Commodore that I could get on this subject? After all, they must have a specification lying around _somewhere_ that that they send to people who are developing new fonts. I would rather get official information, which is guaranteed to remain valid in the future, than to trust someone's "disassembly," if that is what Betty's article is based on. I'd even be willing to become a registered developer, if that is what it takes to get this kind of information. Speaking of which, what is the procedure nowadays for registering as a developer? Thanks, John John Flanagan Center for EUV Astrophysics johnf@ssl.berkeley.edu University of California (...!ucbvax!soc1.ssl!johnf) Berkeley, CA 94720 Manners Maketh Man. (415) 643-6308
p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) (07/04/90)
In article <1990Jun28.173030.18051@agate.berkeley.edu> you write: >I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. >I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of >the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the >actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. Well, in my old RKM Libraries&Devices, there is an example font that defines four card symbols. Since font files are object files (loaded with LoadSeg), the font is written as an assembler text with lots of 'dc' pseudo instructions. I doubt that the RKM1.3 does not show this or another example. -- Michael van Elst UUCP: universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (07/04/90)
In article <803@ki.UUCP> dwatts@ki.UUCP (Dan Watts) writes: >In article <1990Jun28.173030.18051@agate.berkeley.edu> you write: >>I am looking for documentation on the structure of Amiga font files. >>I have the 1.3 RKM's, and while they do describe the contents of >>the font contents file (the foo.font file), they do not describe how the >>actual font bitmap file (the foo/number file) is layed out. > >I've not seen a response to this request yet. I also would like to know >what the font file layout is as I'd like to design some of my own fonts. >Does anyone know what the layout is? I'd like to use DPaintIII to design >my fonts. Is it possible to cut from here and generate a font file? Since a large part of the answer involves explaining how to write a relocable program linker, I can see why people haven't jumped up to provide the answer :-) The easy way is to get your output in the form of an assembler file (like the example in the rom kernal manual), assemble it, link it, and you're all set. The hard way is to include a linker in your font editor. andy > >Dan Watts -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "Of course it's the murder weapon. Who would frame someone with a fake?" Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
stelmack@sunrise.ec.usf.edu (Gregory Stelmack) (07/06/90)
In article <803@ki.UUCP> dwatts@ki.UUCP (Dan Watts) writes: >I've not seen a response to this request yet. I also would like to know >what the font file layout is as I'd like to design some of my own fonts. Since no one responded to the earlier one, I'll throw in what small info I have. "Amiga Graphics Inside & Out" by Abacus, p. 407 mentions that fonts are stored in a packed array, as if each character were drawn next to each other in one long line, i.e. the resulting "bitmap" has a height equal to the font height and a width equal to the sum of the widths of the individual characters. Other than this, I have no info... -- Greg Stelmack -- Email: stelmack@sol.csee.usf.edu or stelmack@sunrise.ec.usf.edu -- USmail: USF Box 1510, Tampa, FL 33620-1510 -- Amiga: the only way to compute!