urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) (09/03/90)
1. What is the difference between the process invoked by the icon labeled
Shell on the SYSTEM2.0 window and the process invoked by the icon labeled
cli on the system drawer of the SYSTEM2.0 window? If they call up the
same process then why are the icons labeled differently?
2. If from the workbench I do a R-e (right amiga-e), I get a requestor
that allows me to enter a cli command, for example: list ram:. This
causes a workbench output window to open, to display the outpt of the
command. Now the system allows me to type in this output window. But if
I type is a command, for example: list df0:c nothing appears to happen.
What I type seems to go into the bit bucket. Further a R-e does not open
a requestor for entering a cli command, but only puts an e in the workbench
output window. Is this the way this component is supposed to work?
rather than issue some error indication for improper procedure?
3. While in Amigashell, I entered the command:
list work:/uedit/uedit/private where private is a directory, and got
the error message "no information for work:/uedit/uedit/private : not
enough memory available" . I immediately checked memory with an avail
command and the system reported that I had 865000+ bytes of chip ram
and 133000+ bytes of fast ram available, with the largest pieces being
864000+ bytes of chip and 129000+ bytes of fast. Repeating the list
command again got the appropriate error message "no information ...
: object not found". ( I really wanted list work:uedit/uedit/private)
I believe this funny error message is a symptom of some addressing or
core overwriting problem in the system.
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Reply-To: Rostyslaw Jarema Lewyckyj
urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP , urjlew@unc.bitnet
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tel. (919)-962-6501urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) (09/04/90)
According to the glossy manual that came with the A3000, there are supposed
to be two hard disk backup programs that come with the DOS 2.0 system.
One is the HDBackup backup and restore utility described starting on page
6-14 in the manual, and the other is BRU described in appendix C. Both
are supposed to be on the DOS 2.0 Extras disk.
* Only they aren't there on my A3000 ! *
There was a two page stapled addendum describing how to use the distribution
diskettes to reconstruct the hard disk to the original C= configuration
and how to boot DOS 1.3, but there were no errata sheets describing
missing features such as the HD backup facilities.
When I was picking up the machine at the dealers, I asked the salesperson
whether I needed to buy an HD backup program sush as Quarterback. He
specifically said that it wasn't necessary because a backup utility came
with the system!
I would like to hear from other A3000 owners, whether their systems came
with the promised HD backup programs. I would also like to hear from
anyone (preferably a C= source) about how I should go about getting
the missing pieces.
Oh and I'd like to hear from others what else might be missing.
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Reply-To: Rostyslaw Jarema Lewyckyj
urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP , urjlew@unc.bitnet
or urjlew@uncvm1.acs.unc.edu (ARPA,SURA,NSF etc. internet)
tel. (919)-962-6501davewt@NCoast.ORG (David Wright) (09/05/90)
In article <1990Sep3.073322.13278@uncecs.edu> urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: > >1. What is the difference between the process invoked by the icon labeled >Shell on the SYSTEM2.0 window and the process invoked by the icon labeled >cli on the system drawer of the SYSTEM2.0 window? If they call up the >same process then why are the icons labeled differently? Because there were 2 different names under 1.3, which did different things. Now under 2.0 they are the same, but the 2 names were kept for people who are used to using an icon named "CLI". (Did I read the intro manual correctly?) >2. If from the workbench I do a R-e (right amiga-e), I get a requestor >that allows me to enter a cli command, for example: list ram:. This >causes a workbench output window to open, to display the outpt of the >command. Now the system allows me to type in this output window. But if >I type is a command, for example: list df0:c nothing appears to happen. >What I type seems to go into the bit bucket. Further a R-e does not open Right Amiga-e does not open a CLI window. It merely allows you to enter one (1) command, and if the command sends output, it opens a window which hangs around until you use the close gadget to get rid of it (so you don't lose the results of the command). You can NOT type in further commands in this window. If you want to do more than one command you should open a new shell window. Dave
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (09/05/90)
In article <1990Sep3.073322.13278@uncecs.edu> urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: > cli on the system drawer of the SYSTEM2.0 window? If they call up the > same process then why are the icons labeled differently? I suspect it's a historical thing to avoid confusing folks. > 3. While in Amigashell, I entered the command: > list work:/uedit/uedit/private where private is a directory, and got > the error message "no information for work:/uedit/uedit/private : not > enough memory available" . I immediately checked memory with an avail [and there was lots of RAM left] I had the same problem opening a floppy under Workbench. Repeating the command worked. I assumed a temporary memory shortage. It's a bit annoying. In my case I know that there was very little FAST ram left, but plenty of chip. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (09/07/90)
In article <6522@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <1990Sep3.073322.13278@uncecs.edu> urjlew@uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: >> cli on the system drawer of the SYSTEM2.0 window? If they call up the >> same process then why are the icons labeled differently? > >I suspect it's a historical thing to avoid confusing folks. One is a project (the shell) and the other is a tool (CLI) which the shell project icon points too. You can make copies of the project icons, each with a different window size and position, so with a couple clicks you can fill a window with shells. > >> 3. While in Amigashell, I entered the command: >> list work:/uedit/uedit/private where private is a directory, and got >> the error message "no information for work:/uedit/uedit/private : not >> enough memory available" . I immediately checked memory with an avail > [and there was lots of RAM left] The pattern match routines contain a rather simple error return... if they couldn't build the pattern, they would return "out of memory" whether or not you were actually out of memory. andy -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "Usenet: A method for college students to demonstrate job qualifications and suitability to potential employers." Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.