martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) (12/04/90)
Does anyone know if there's a change dir commando for the amiga like the MS-DOS (bwaah!) Norton Change Dir (NCD). NCD creates an image of the hard-disk directory structure, so it can immediately change to a given dir. Well, most of us are unhappy enough to work with PC's in the (un)real world so you'll probably know what NCD does. Thanks in advance, Martijn Reinalda. *********************************************************************** ** Keyboard error or no keyboard present. Press any key to continue. ** ** IBM. ** *********************************************************************** ** E-mail : martijn@DNLUNX.UUCP ** ***********************************************************************
blgardne@javelin.es.com (Blaine Gardner) (12/05/90)
martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) writes: >Does anyone know if there's a change dir commando for the amiga >like the MS-DOS (bwaah!) Norton Change Dir (NCD). I have no idea what NCD is supposed to do, but maybe you're looking for what the PCD script that's part of 1.3 does. PCD "remembers" the Previous Current Directory, so you can CD really/long/path/1 PCD really/long/path/2 PCD and you're back in really/long/path/1. If you're looking for something fancier, Bill Hawes WShell ($40, commercial product) has pushdir, popdir and swapdir commands so you can manipulate a stack of directories. -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108 blgardne@esunix.UUCP BIX: blaine_g {decwrl, utah-cs}!esunix!blgardne PLink: BlaineG DoD #0046 My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.
jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel MOYNE) (12/06/90)
>Does anyone know if there's a change dir commando for the amiga >like the MS-DOS (bwaah!) Norton Change Dir (NCD). The closest I can think of is atree, a shareware program I saw a unfinished (or limited?) version of once. It's more like a browser than a 'ncd', but you get a graphical representation of the tree structure of your disk, and you can browse thru it doing the usual stuff (display file, copy delete, etc ...) By the way, it's not ncd but one of the nice features of Wshell that has been added to the shell in 2.0 is the ability to change to a directory by just typing it's name (no need for 'cd'). And ncd has nothing to do with push and popdir, but you should check out WShell anyway, it's very good. (ncd just act like an evoluated cd if you use it as 'ncd dirname' (I believe it can even correct typing mistakes by going to the directory with the closest name to what you typed), and if you type ncd alone, it'll then display a graphical tree structure of your disk and you can change of dir using the arrows keys). JNM -- These are my own ideas (not LBL's) " Just make it!", BO in 'BO knows Unix'
andrew@teslab.lab.OZ (Andrew Phillips) (12/11/90)
In article <4411@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl> martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) writes: >Does anyone know if there's a change dir command for the amiga >like the MS-DOS (bwaah!) Norton Change Dir (NCD). >NCD creates an image of the hard-disk directory structure, so it >can immediately change to a given dir. Well, most of us are unhappy >enough to work with PC's in the (un)real world so you'll probably know >what NCD does. Unfortunately I have worked with MSDOS on and off for 8 years but I haven't used NCD. I presume it has a TSR part which stores an image of the whole hard disk directory structure in memory. Then the NCD command itself accesses this so that you can change to another directory immediately by not having to scan all the disk directories in the specified path. Fortunately the Amiga has a different disk format so that it does not need to scan a whole directory to find an entry. So when you do a CD \APP\WIN\SYSTEM under MSDOS, CD has to do three (linear) searches of three directories. (If one or more of these directories are very large it can take a long time.) On the other hand on the Amiga a similar CD would not require linear searches (it uses a hash table) and so would be relatively instantaneous. So the answer is that the Amiga disk format makes an Amiga NCD unnecessary. -- Andrew Phillips (andrew@teslab.lab.oz.au) Phone +61 (Aust) 2 (Sydney) 289 8712
martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) (12/14/90)
andrew@teslab.lab.OZ (Andrew Phillips) writes: >In article <4411@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl> martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) writes: >>Does anyone know if there's a change dir command for the amiga >>like the MS-DOS (bwaah!) Norton Change Dir (NCD). >>NCD creates an image of the hard-disk directory structure, so it >>can immediately change to a given dir. Well, most of us are unhappy >>enough to work with PC's in the (un)real world so you'll probably know >>what NCD does. >Unfortunately I have worked with MSDOS on and off for 8 years but I >haven't used NCD. I presume it has a TSR part which stores an image >of the whole hard disk directory structure in memory. Then the NCD >command itself accesses this so that you can change to another >directory immediately by not having to scan all the disk directories >in the specified path. >Fortunately the Amiga has a different disk format so that it does not >need to scan a whole directory to find an entry. So when you do a > CD \APP\WIN\SYSTEM >under MSDOS, CD has to do three (linear) searches of three >directories. (If one or more of these directories are very large it >can take a long time.) On the other hand on the Amiga a similar CD >would not require linear searches (it uses a hash table) and so would >be relatively instantaneous. >So the answer is that the Amiga disk format makes an Amiga NCD unnecessary. >Andrew Phillips (andrew@teslab.lab.oz.au) Phone +61 (Aust) 2 (Sydney) 289 8712 I'm sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear or you're just missing the point. Example : Let's say there's a directory DH0:programs/graphics/sculpt/objects Then I wanna type : NCD objects and the computer should automaticaly know where that directory is located ( I don't care how) and perform a : CD dh0:programs/graphics/sculpt/objects It also should not matter in what directory I am on the moment of giving the NCD command. *********************************************************************** ** Keyboard error or no keyboard present. Press any key to continue. ** ** IBM. ** *********************************************************************** ** E-mail : martijn@DNLUNX.UUCP ** ***********************************************************************
walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann) (12/15/90)
In article <4961@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl> martijn@dnlunx.pttrnl.nl (Reinalda M.) writes: > Let's say there's a directory DH0:programs/graphics/sculpt/objects > >Then I wanna type : NCD objects > >and the computer should automaticaly know where that directory is located >( I don't care how) and perform a : > >CD dh0:programs/graphics/sculpt/objects > >It also should not matter in what directory I am on the moment of giving >the NCD command. "It's in there!" How about this in your startup-sequence: assign objects: dh0:programs/graphics/sculpt/objects then you can say cd objects: ; note the colon (:) at the end and voila'!!! Do a few assigns for your most common directories, and you're in business. No new programs needed. ._. Udo Schuermann "How is American beer similar to making love in ( ) walrus@wam.umd.edu a canoe?" -- "Both are f***ing close to water."