bacon@zeus.unomaha.edu (12/09/90)
RE: What's Wrong with ARP. Hasn't the point about ARP been made moot since WB 2.0 (soon to be 2.1) has been incorporated in toto into it?? In a conversation I had here with a fellow Amiga colleague, he stated that the sole purpose of ARP was to goad C= into action, which they have done. For those of us who may be less than enlightened, like you, would you mind telling us what some of the pitfalls of using ARP are? Especially since you are carrying this conversation publicly on NEWS. Also, those of us who have A1000's or A500's will have to stick to something like the ARP set unless we shell out the bucks for chip upgrades and the boards to go with them since WB2.X requires the Agnus 1meg chip. Please don't flame me for any ignorance. All of us are at different levels of experience and this is a public forum. Russ Bacon Internet BACON@ZEUS.UNOMAHA BITNET BACON@ZEUS.UNOMA1
hclausen@adspdk.UUCP (Henrik Clausen) (12/10/90)
In article <5435.2760c937@zeus.unomaha.edu>, bacon@zeus.unomaha.edu writes: > RE: What's Wrong with ARP. I'll sum up one more time. > Hasn't the point about ARP been made moot since WB 2.0 (soon to be 2.1) > has been incorporated into it?? Practically. Since I got 2.0 I have not had _any_ interest in the ARP commands. The C: commands are small, really tiny, and many are internal to the Shell. There are of course differences, but with 2.0 the major reasons ARP was done (BCPL, primarily!) are gone :-) > For those of us who may be less than enlightened, like you, would you > mind telling us what some of the pitfalls of using ARP are? Mostly scripts breaking and other incompatibilities around the Shell. These might not be apparent until someday you Execute an update script or similar. > Also, those of us who have A1000's or A500's will have to stick to something > like the ARP set unless we shell out the bucks for chip upgrades and the > boards to go with them since WB2.X requires the Agnus 1meg chip. I've successfully tested 2.0 on an A2000A with the old (thin) Agnus. No problem, the 1meg Agnus story is just another stoopid rumour. The 2.0 ROM's will fit any Amiga with a ROM socket, though a single trace may be needed. > Please don't flame me for any ignorance. All of us are at different levels > of experience and this is a public forum. OK, I won't. :-) -Henrik ______________________________________________________________________________ | Henrik Clausen, Graffiti Data | If the Doors of Perception where cleansed, | | ...{pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax! | Man would see Reality as it is - Infinite. | \______cbmehq!adspdk!hclausen___|_________________________________W. Blake___/
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (12/10/90)
In article <5435.2760c937@zeus.unomaha.edu> bacon@zeus.unomaha.edu writes: > >Also, those of us who have A1000's or A500's will have to stick to something >like the ARP set unless we shell out the bucks for chip upgrades and the >boards to go with them since WB2.X requires the Agnus 1meg chip. ^^^^^^^^ NO, SIR :-) No chip upgrade necessary. (Ok, preferred, but not necessary.) >Please don't flame me for any ignorance. Then please don't post wrong facts. -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
terminal@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Bernard Leach) (12/17/90)
In <5435.2760c937@zeus.unomaha.edu> bacon@zeus.unomaha.edu writes: Hi all, >Hasn't the point about ARP been made moot since WB 2.0 (soon to be 2.1) >has been incorporated in toto into it?? > Well like you said thats what we HOPE, I for one havent actually heard much of the DOS side of 2.0. Maybe someone can let us in on the secrets? >For those of us who may be less than enlightened, like you, would you >mind telling us what some of the pitfalls of using ARP are? Especially >since you are carrying this conversation publicly on NEWS. ARP does actually have some nasty bugs hiding in there. The only one I have specifically traced is one with the newcli/newshell function. I dont really know what the problem is but the symptoms include stack overflows and memory related gurus. Well anyhow hopefully 2.0 will have upgraded dos commands and we will not need arp. bernard.