[comp.sys.handhelds] How is the HP-28S different from the HP-19B

rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) (11/22/89)

I need a new calculator and I've always been an HP fan.  Being in the
financial business (investment management), the HP-19B has a lot of
appeal but I don't know if it has the same deep down capabilities as
the HP-28S.  I have not had a chance to play with either.  If anybody
knows both machines, I would appreciate seeing a comparison of the two. 
Here in Pittsburgh the 19B is about $150 and the 28S is $200.  Clearly
there must be some difference for the price.

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mark@hpcpbla.HP.COM (Mark Simms) (11/27/89)

I believe that the main reason for the difference in price is the
difference in memory.  The HP-19B has 6500 bytes of available RAM
whereas the HP-28S has 32000 bytes of available RAM.  The reason for
this difference is that the HP-28S is truly programmable whereas the
HP-19B is customizable by storing equations which are then manipulated
by other functions.

The HP-28S is stated to have over 1500 built in functions, whereas the
HP-19B is stated to have over 450.  This would also suggest that there
is a difference in the ROM sizes in the two machines.  As I have no
access to the internal designs of these machines, I cannot confirm or
deny this.

The functions listed for the HP-19B in the advertising sheet that I
have are as follows:

	Business graphics:
		Cash flow graphics
		Statistics and forecasting

	Time and data management:
		Clock, calendar, alarms, appointments
		Date arithmetic, 
		Edit, search, sort and store text
		Edit, sort and store number lists
		Copy, label and subtotal of number lists

	 Business functions
		Amortization schedules
		Bond price and yield
		Cash flow analysis
		Currency conversions
		Depreciation methods
		Interest rate conversions
		Markup as percent of cost and price
		Percent change, percent of total
		Time value of money
		Unit of measurement conversions

	Statistics functions
		Standard deviation, mean, weighted mean
		Linear, log, exponential, power curve fitting
		Forecasting, correlation coefficient
		Sum, sum of squares, sum of products

	Maths functions
		+, -, *, /, %
		Square root, reciprocal, change sign, power
		natural and common logarithms and inverses
		Factorial, pi, square
		Trigonometry, probability, hyperbolics

The functions in a similar sheet for the HP-28S are as follows:

	Maths functions:
		+, -, *, /, %
		Square root, reciprocal, change sign, power
		Natural and common logarithms and inverses
		Factorial, pi, square,
		Symbolic algebra
		Numerical integration
		Symbolic polynomial integration
		Symbolic derivatives

	Scientific features
		Base conversion and arithmetic
		Bit and boolean operators
		Complex number functions
		Root finder
		Hyperbolics/inverses
		Matrix/vector operations
		Trigonometric operations
		Unit conversions

	Statistical features
		Edit, name, save list
		Standard deviation and mean
		Linear regression
		Linear, log, exponential and power curve fitting
		Weighted mean, group standard deviation
		Combinations and permutations

Both calculators come in roughly the same package.  They are book
style with 36 keys on one side and 37 on the other.  Both have a 4
line by 23 character bit mapped LCD display.  Both support graphics
and the infra-red printer.

The list prices I have, which date from January 1st are $175 for the
HP-19B and $235 for the HP-28S.  You should be able to get better than
this from a dealer though.

The question of the choice between the two is whether the HP-19B does
all that you want or not.  If so, then it is probably a very good buy.
However, it is not programmable and cannot be customized to the same
extent as the HP-28S.  If what you want is a programmable calculator
with a few business functions, then you would be better off with the
HP-28S and typing in the extra functions that you require.

For more detailed information contact HP Calculator Support on
+1-503-757-2004 between 08:00 and 15:00 Pacific time.

Mark Simms

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official  statement  by Hewlett  Packard.  Also note   that I  have no
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user of their products
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