rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) (11/22/89)
I need a new calculator and I've always been an HP fan. Being in the financial business (investment management), the HP-19B has a lot of appeal but I don't know if it has the same deep down capabilities as the HP-28S. I have not had a chance to play with either. If anybody knows both machines, I would appreciate seeing a comparison of the two. Here in Pittsburgh the 19B is about $150 and the 28S is $200. Clearly there must be some difference for the price. -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 ...!uunet!pitt!investor!rbp rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us
mark@hpcpbla.HP.COM (Mark Simms) (11/27/89)
I believe that the main reason for the difference in price is the difference in memory. The HP-19B has 6500 bytes of available RAM whereas the HP-28S has 32000 bytes of available RAM. The reason for this difference is that the HP-28S is truly programmable whereas the HP-19B is customizable by storing equations which are then manipulated by other functions. The HP-28S is stated to have over 1500 built in functions, whereas the HP-19B is stated to have over 450. This would also suggest that there is a difference in the ROM sizes in the two machines. As I have no access to the internal designs of these machines, I cannot confirm or deny this. The functions listed for the HP-19B in the advertising sheet that I have are as follows: Business graphics: Cash flow graphics Statistics and forecasting Time and data management: Clock, calendar, alarms, appointments Date arithmetic, Edit, search, sort and store text Edit, sort and store number lists Copy, label and subtotal of number lists Business functions Amortization schedules Bond price and yield Cash flow analysis Currency conversions Depreciation methods Interest rate conversions Markup as percent of cost and price Percent change, percent of total Time value of money Unit of measurement conversions Statistics functions Standard deviation, mean, weighted mean Linear, log, exponential, power curve fitting Forecasting, correlation coefficient Sum, sum of squares, sum of products Maths functions +, -, *, /, % Square root, reciprocal, change sign, power natural and common logarithms and inverses Factorial, pi, square Trigonometry, probability, hyperbolics The functions in a similar sheet for the HP-28S are as follows: Maths functions: +, -, *, /, % Square root, reciprocal, change sign, power Natural and common logarithms and inverses Factorial, pi, square, Symbolic algebra Numerical integration Symbolic polynomial integration Symbolic derivatives Scientific features Base conversion and arithmetic Bit and boolean operators Complex number functions Root finder Hyperbolics/inverses Matrix/vector operations Trigonometric operations Unit conversions Statistical features Edit, name, save list Standard deviation and mean Linear regression Linear, log, exponential and power curve fitting Weighted mean, group standard deviation Combinations and permutations Both calculators come in roughly the same package. They are book style with 36 keys on one side and 37 on the other. Both have a 4 line by 23 character bit mapped LCD display. Both support graphics and the infra-red printer. The list prices I have, which date from January 1st are $175 for the HP-19B and $235 for the HP-28S. You should be able to get better than this from a dealer though. The question of the choice between the two is whether the HP-19B does all that you want or not. If so, then it is probably a very good buy. However, it is not programmable and cannot be customized to the same extent as the HP-28S. If what you want is a programmable calculator with a few business functions, then you would be better off with the HP-28S and typing in the extra functions that you require. For more detailed information contact HP Calculator Support on +1-503-757-2004 between 08:00 and 15:00 Pacific time. Mark Simms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note that the opinions expressed are my own and any statements made are correct as far as I know. This is not intended to be an official statement by Hewlett Packard. Also note that I have no connection with Hewlett Packard's calculator business other than as a user of their products ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Mark Simms Position: Software Development Engineer Organisation: Hewlett-Packard Computer Peripherals Division Email US: mark%hpcpbla@hplb.hpl.hp.com UK: mark%hpcpbla@hplb.hp.co.uk Address: Filton Road, Bristol BS12 6QZ, United Kingdom