[comp.sys.handhelds] Renaming the newsgroup

pete%slack.uucp@cs.utah.edu (Pete Ashdown) (02/17/90)

In article <401@clover.warwick.ac.uk> cstxqhh@cu.warwick.ac.uk (RouE) writes:
>
>	As far as I can tell, this is not a general interest group,
>	but a specialised group for owners of handheld Hewlet Packard
>	computers, so why not call it something more appropriate like
>	comp.sys.hph (hewlet packard handhelds),
>	or comp.sys.hp28 (pretty obvious).

I concur.  However, I think creation of a new newsgroup would be more
appropriate than renaming this one.  Most of the traffic through here consists
of  HP28 related messages.  However, the current life expectancy (with the
new HP around the corner) really doesn't warrant an entire newsgroup dedicated
to the 28.  I'd say that comp.sys.hph is a much better choice since most 28
owners (including myself) are interested in HP's other calculators and future
calculators as well.
  I originally found out about comp.sys.handhelds by posting in comp.sys.hp.
A comp.sys.hph would be more direct and would eliminate the non-interesting
stuff for the HP owners (Sharp, Casio :-)) as well.  However, hph is sort of
vague.  I'd say hpcalc is a better extension.

a634@mindlink.UUCP (Rob Prior) (02/17/90)

I think that the name of the newsgroup should stay the same... I have found out
some interesting things about other handhelds (CASIO, SHARP, etc.) by listening
here.  There was an interesting discussion of the merits/downfalls of the Atari
Portfolio a while back, and the information I received here convinced me to
stick to my HP.  The group is taking care of itself.  Leave it alone.  If you
wish to discuss other calculators, feel free to do so!  No one is going to yell
at you for it.

Rob
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jrl@images1.Waterloo.NCR.COM (john Latala) (02/20/90)

In article <1990Feb17.122659.27302@hellgate.utah.edu> pete%slack.uucp@cs.utah.edu (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>In article <401@clover.warwick.ac.uk> cstxqhh@cu.warwick.ac.uk (RouE) writes:
>>
>>	As far as I can tell, this is not a general interest group,
>>	but a specialised group for owners of handheld Hewlet Packard
>>	computers, so why not call it something more appropriate like
>>	comp.sys.hph (hewlet packard handhelds),
>>	or comp.sys.hp28 (pretty obvious).
>
...
>  I originally found out about comp.sys.handhelds by posting in comp.sys.hp.
>A comp.sys.hph would be more direct and would eliminate the non-interesting
>stuff for the HP owners (Sharp, Casio :-)) as well.  However, hph is sort of
>vague.  I'd say hpcalc is a better extension.

I don't thiuk that there is anything stopping owners of other handhelds
from posting to comp.sys.handhelds, but they don't appear to be posting.

If a name change is needed then I think it should be something like:

	comp.sys.handhelds.hp

which would put it under the 'handheld' newsgroup. Or

	comp.sys.hp.handheld

which would put it under the 'hp' newsgroup. I prefer the
comp.sys.handheld.something name because that could then be extended to
other handhelds as needed.
-- 
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ccsteve@rivendell.Ucdavis.EDU (Steve Nichols) (02/22/90)

	I would like to see more postings about HP's older machines.  Does
anyone out there still write
programs for the HP 41, 65, 67, 71, or 75?  Am I the only one with an
interest in these machines?

						Steve Nichols
						ccsteve@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu

randys@hpcvra.CV.HP.COM (Randy Stockberger) (02/22/90)

I prefer leaving it the way it is and doing something to encourage users
of non-hp machines to join in.

Randy Stockberger
randys@hp-pcd.cv.com

horlache@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Ullrich Horlacher) (02/22/90)

pete%slack.uucp@cs.utah.edu (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>However, hph is sort of
>vague.  I'd say hpcalc is a better extension.

good idea!!  Ulli  

lishka@uwslh.slh.wisc.edu (Chris Lishka (controlled by cockatiels) ) (02/22/90)

pete%slack.uucp@cs.utah.edu (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>I concur.  However, I think creation of a new newsgroup would be more
>appropriate than renaming this one.  Most of the traffic through here consists
>of  HP28 related messages.  However, the current life expectancy (with the
>new HP around the corner) really doesn't warrant an entire newsgroup dedicated
>to the 28.  I'd say that comp.sys.hph is a much better choice since most 28
>owners (including myself) are interested in HP's other calculators and future
>calculators as well.

OK, if some people are thinking about creating a new newsgroup (about
50% of the replies seem to favor this), then someone with knowledge of
this process should hold a vote.  Although I am not really in favor of
creating/renaming to an hp handheld group, I think a vote at this
point is worthwhile to keep this discussion from tying up the
newsgroup.  The vote should settle the disagreements for a while. 

So, does anybody out there who knows the "proper" way want to conduct
the vote?

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stan@hprpcd.HP.COM (Stan Witherspoon) (02/23/90)

Does anyone still have the notes discussing the Portfolio? I have noticed that 
there doesn't seem to be any advertising for it (I see lots of Wizard ads)? Is
there anyone who is trying to write any applications/design hardware for the
portfolio? I have just sold my 41CX + acessories, and I want to get somthing
along the lines of the Portfolio. 

Stan (What's the scoop) Witherspoon

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mec@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (michael.e.connick) (02/28/90)

In article <13170003@hprpcd.HP.COM> stan@hprpcd.HP.COM (Stan Witherspoon) writes:
> Is there anyone who is trying to write any applications/design hardware
> for the portfolio?

Yes, I've written a couple of small applications for the
Portfolio. It's VERY easy to do so. Mine were developed in Microsoft C
on an AT&T 6300 Plus and just downloaded to the Portfolio.

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news@udenva.cair.du.edu (netnews) (03/01/90)

In article <4013@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> mec@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (michael.e.connick,mt,) writes:
>In article <13170003@hprpcd.HP.COM> stan@hprpcd.HP.COM (Stan Witherspoon) writes:
>> Is there anyone who is trying to write any applications/design hardware
>> for the portfolio?
>
>Yes, I've written a couple of small applications for the
>Portfolio. It's VERY easy to do so. Mine were developed in Microsoft C
>on an AT&T 6300 Plus and just downloaded to the Portfolio.

I sure would like to see what you guys are writing, if that's 
appropriate.  Have you thought of uploading stuff to Atari's
BBS?  A few people have put stuff there.  It's number is 
408-745-2642 full access after registration.

Bob
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