umapd51@cc.ic.ac.uk (04/10/90)
Information exchange via comp.sys.handhelds has many advantages, but it does entirely replace actually talking to another user or reading a printed magazine. So, here is my list of clubs that support HP handheld computers/calculators. The bigger clubs publish journals and have regular meetings, smaller clubs usually exchange a printed newsshet and hold occasional meetings. It is likely that the introduction of the HP 48SX will lead to an increase in club activity. ---------Cut----------here------------------- CLUB LIST EIGHTH EDITION, APRIL 1990 List of clubs for users of HP handheld calculators and computers, compiled on the basis of information provided at the HP handheld calculator and computer users' conferences held in Copenhagen, Denmark, 8-9 August 1987 and in Corvallis, Oregon, USA, 4-6 August 1988. The list was originally published in the journal of the international club HPX (see below under USA); I update it as and when I get new information. More information is welcome and I shall include it in future updates. AUSTRALIA Melbourne club: PPPM Inc., P.O. Box 512, Ringwood, Vic. 3134, Australia Sydney club: CHHU Syydney, C/- K.Besley, Charley Bus. Services, 22 Elsie Street, Burwood, N.S.W. 2134, Australia The above two clubs jointly published a very neat journal called Technical Notes. Only one issue appeared in 1989; they have offered to provide DATAFILE (see UK club) to their members for 1990. Perth and Brisbane clubs apparently no longer active. AUSTRIA CCA - HP Club Austria, Michael Pocksteiner, P.O. Box 50, A-1111 Wien, Austria No representatives in Copenhagen or Corvallis, the above is the address they gave before the Copenhagen conference. BELGIUM Flemish-speaking club PCX, Postbus 205, B-8000 Brugge 1, Belgium Active - publish a journal - PCX A French-speaking club exists too but no representatives came and it seems to be less active. CANADA No independent clubs, but I understand that local chapters of US clubs do exist. DENMARK PPC-Denmark, c/o Henrik Helnaes, Gersonvej 14, DK-2900 Hellerup, Denmark Active, publish USER - two issues for 1989. Have excellent relations with HP, for example HP put cards mentioning this club in the boxes of calculators sold in Denmark. Despite a statement by HP representatives at the Copenhagen conference that such cards could be put in boxes throughout Europe, this has not happened generally. (Hence the need for this list.) ENGLAND see United Kingdom FINLAND STAK, c/o Tapani Tarvainen, Yliopistonkatu 10 B 21, SF-40100 Jyvaskyla, Finland Active, publish STAK. Two issues in 1989. FRANCE PPC-Paris, BP 604, 75028 Paris Cedex 01, France Active, especially in the HP-71B field. Journal, JPC, published every two months. Have produced an excellent general-purpose HP-71 module - the JPCROM. HP-41 and HP-28 strongly supported too. PPC-Toulouse, France Closed end of 1987 because they could not find anyone to do the work when the founder did not have the time. Contact the Paris club. GERMANY (West Germany) CCD e.V., P.O. Box 110411, Schwalbacherstr. 50 Hhs., D-6000 Frankfurt 1, West Germany Active - the largest club in the world for users of HP handhelds since the US clubs began to have their troubles. They began as an HP-41 users' club, but as their members bought PCs they set up new sections for different ranges of PCs. They now have an HP handheld section, an MS-DOS section, a CP/M section and an Atari section. Their journal PRISMA (very professionally produced) continues to deal largely with HP equipment, it is published every 2 months. A PPC chapter existed in West Germany for a time, but no longer appears to be active. I think it was in Dortmund. GULF STATES Letters to PPC in the early 80s suggested there were some HP clubs in this region, but nothing has come from there recently and it seems most likely that these were temporary groups of HP users working for a time in the Gulf. HOLLAND (The Netherlands) HP Club Amsterdam, Quellijnstraat 47-3, 1072 XP Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Active - publish the journal PROMPT. Four issues published in 1989, 1/2, 3, 4, 5/6. Four issues planned for 1990. They have no support at all from HP-Holland because HP now refer customer's questions to a third party commercial company. HP28GG, P/a: Eric Toonen Djept-Zuid 6 5502 RP Veldhoven The Netherlands This club was formed for HP-28 users in 1989. Since the arrival of the HP 48SX it supports the HP-28C, HP-28S and HP 48SX, in fact it is an "RPL-club". Two issues so far of their journal. Eric Toonen is one of the most active sources of HP-28 information, but the club publishes only in Dutch and has no plans to accept non-Dutch speaking members. The book and calculator shop: TH Boekhandel Prins, Binnenwatersloot 30, 2611 BK Delft, The Netherlands used to publish a journal HP-USER NIEUWS and to act as a centre for club activity, but they gave up after 10 issues of the journal. ITALY CHHU-IT, c/o Stefano Tendon, Cantone delle Asse 5, 29100 Piacenza, Italy Published one issue of a journal but had little response and currently they act mainly as a contact group. They do produce very good software some of which is included in JPCROM for the HP-71B (see France). IRAN Letters to the PPC Journal in the early 80s suggested at least one club existed in Iran, but it seems probable that it was like the clubs in the Gulf States mentioned above. MEXICO A club existed in Mexico City and was visited by Richard Nelson, (founder of the original club for users of HP handhelds) but there have been no signs of recent activity. THE NETHERLANDS (see HOLLAND) NORWAY PPC-Norway, c/o IB Jorgensen Do not publish their own journal but work closely with PPC-Denmark and share their journal. Owing to the limited number of issues of the Danish club journal in 1989, they have asked to take DATAFILE from the UK club in 1990. Other clubs existed for a time but seem to have been student groups which broke up. SOUTH AFRICA As with the Gulf States and Iran there were some signs of club activity a few years ago but nothing has been heard recently. SPAIN An active club existed for a while and some HP-41 related books were translated into Spanish, but no club activity has been heard of recently. Valentin Albillo was reported to have re-established contact with the Australians, so he might provide further details, but has not done so yet. SWEDEN PPC-CG c/o Odinsgatan 6, 40120 GOTEBORG, Sweden A NEW club has just started in Orebro, they plan to build up a program library from which members can buy programs for 10 sw.crowns (about US$1.50). They are getting some help from Lars Reimius at HP Sweden. Membership: 100 sw.cr. (=10 UK pounds, about US$15) to "post-giro" 480 53 17-7. A newsletter is planned 4-6 times a year. _ _ Svenska HP-raknarforeningen c/o Erik Bryntse Byalagsgatan 4 d _ S-703 60 Orebro SWEDEN Phone: ..... 19 13 29 46 The Finnish club also publishes submissions in Swedish. SWITZERLAND PPC-Lausanne, Luzius Auer, Case Postale, 1049 Assens/VD, Switzerland Publish a journal, but were not represented in Copenhagen or Corvallis. HP-Club, Franco dal Molin, Plattenstr. 44, 8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland UNITED KINGDOM (England, Scotland, Wales & N.Ireland, members from other countries welcome) Enquiries to: HPCC, Geggs Lodge, Hempton Road, Deddington, Oxon OX5 4QG, England Active, publish a journal DATAFILE - 8 issues published in 1989, 8 planned for 1990. Also arrange a conference every year. To other clubs: the UK club offers its journal at bulk rates to clubs, details from the above address. USA/International Three large clubs in the USA have acted as centres of information exchange not just in the USA but also worldwide. CHHU Unfortunately no longer active though some local branches still meet. Members were given some indication of impending problems before the club stopped its activities, but not much. PPC THE original club, founded by Richard Nelson. Active for 14 years till 1987. Board of Directors took direct control from Richard Nelson in 1985. Put up their subscription charge in June 1987, then shut down all activities with no explanation to members. I estimate that up to 3000 members may have renewed at about $35 each in June 1987, so someone at PPC presumably has collected about $100,000. HPX P.O. Box 4160, Des Plaines, IL 60016, USA Have taken over US and international activities since the other two US clubs became inactive. Publish the journal HPX Exchange. The organiser has been very busy and has been promising the first issue of 1989 "within a month" for the past 14 months. An issue actually is ready to go to press but members are still waiting for it to be printed and posted. I intend to change this club's status to "inactive" in the next issue of this list unless something comes before then. Several local club branches (or "chapters") exist in the United States. Some are local sections of one of the above clubs, others are much more autonomous and some publish local newsletters. They cover areas of about the same size as a European country, so if HPX remains inactive then I propose to put the addresses of these clubs in the next issue of this list and to describe the UK club as "international" as it is the only one that publishes regularly and in English. I know of local US chapters in Chicago, Twin Cities, Philadelphia, Puget Sound (i.e. Seattle area), Orange County and San Francisco, but not their addresses. Further details for the next issue of this list wil be very welcome. European clubs have an agreed policy of printing a summary in English of the contents of each issue of every journal. These summaries, together with program comments, are usually sufficient to let readers copy and use programs even if they do not understand the language of the journal. The new clubs in Sweden and the Netherlands do not follow this policy though. In addition to the above clubs, the HP Users' Library, (now transferred to an independent company, "Solve and Integrate", get address from HP), HP offices in some countries, third party producers, and shops can also provide help to HP users, but I have not included them in this list as they are not clubs. Inactive clubs: to save space, I intend to move all "inactive" clubs to a separate list at the end, in the next issue of this list. If you know of a club which is active but is not described as such in this list, or is not mentioned at all, please let me know. Disclaimer: I have done my best to provide accurate and up to date information, but a lot of it was passed to me by other sources, so I cannot guarantee it is all correct. As you can see, some clubs have stopped giving value for money (or indeed anything for money). It is advisable to write to clubs giving a return address on your envelope, so as to check if the club is no longer active or has changed its address, before sending them any money. Give them some time to reply (they are run part-time by members who have jobs too), and if you get no reply within a couple of months, try a different club. Wlodek Mier-Jedrzejowicz, 10 April 1990. -------------------CUT HERE IF YOU WISH---------------- BITNET address: MIER @ SPVA.PH.IC.AC.UK