[comp.sys.handhelds] I wanna have a Dynabook....

b_murphy@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au (10/16/90)

Hi, 
I've got a memory like a sieve, so I figured I wanted a machine
to remember things, events, names etc. for me. Now there isn't a
Dynabook available yet and I can't carry my MAC SE/30 in my shirt
pocket :-)

However, I cannot do without a *proper* r.p.n. machine and simply
*HATE* to use brackets in anything, (except for comments like this :-)

So what do I go out and puchase, 28, 48, BOSS, ... ?

- It's got to know the time.
- It's got to beep.
- It's got to be small. 
   (Fit in a pocket / Wrist wallet)
- It's got to be alfa-numeric.
   (QWERTY ?)
- It's got to have *heaps* of space.
   (Some people call it RAM ... tsk, tsk.)
- It's got to have rpn.
   (Reversed Polish Notation, just to make sure )
- It's got to be able to manage a database of names or appointments.
   (1000+)
- It would be nice if it was expandable.
- It would be nice if it could talk to the outside world.
   (To read NEWS :-)

Any insights, opinions, sales information, do's and do-not's would be
much appreciated.
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brandonl@gold.GVG.TEK.COM (Brandon Lovested) (10/16/90)

In article <1990Oct16.111610.2443@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> b_murphy@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
>So what do I go out and puchase, 28, 48, BOSS, ... ?
>
>- It's got to beep.
BOSS doesn't beep.

>- It's got to have rpn.
>   (Reversed Polish Notation, just to make sure )
ICK!  Why do you wish to make things difficult?  Or do you mean for 
calculator entry? If so, I agree, but for programming, why don't you just
shove knitting needles in your ears? ;-)

>- It would be nice if it was expandable.
>- It would be nice if it could talk to the outside world.
>   (To read NEWS :-)
>
>Any insights, opinions, sales information, do's and do-not's would be
>much appreciated.

Sounds like you want a small computer.  Whereas the 48sx might fill the bill,
I do not believe the others would even come close.  Check out the Atari 
PORTFOLIO.  ~$350, qwerty keyboard, 32KB RAM (expandable) , etc...
It's basically a PC the size of a video cassette.  This may be too big 
for a pocket, though.


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chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) (10/17/90)

In article <1581@gold.GVG.TEK.COM>, brandonl@gold.GVG.TEK.COM (Brandon Lovested) writes:
> In article <1990Oct16.111610.2443@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> b_murphy@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
> >So what do I go out and puchase, 28, 48, BOSS, ... ?
> >
> >- It's got to beep.
> BOSS doesn't beep.

     BOSS does beep.  Three beeps actually: daily alarm, scheduled alarms,
and keyboard click.

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brandonl@gold.GVG.TEK.COM (Brandon Lovested) (10/18/90)

In article <4556@trantor.harris-atd.com> chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) writes:
>> BOSS doesn't beep.
>
>     BOSS does beep.  Three beeps actually: daily alarm, scheduled alarms,
>and keyboard click.

Which model?  I looked at the 32 and 64, and scanned the documentation, but
there was no mention of audible alarms.  How programmable are the scheduled 
alarms?  Can one program a recurring alarm every week, plus special ones?



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chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) (10/18/90)

In article <1591@gold.GVG.TEK.COM>, brandonl@gold.GVG.TEK.COM (Brandon Lovested) writes:
> In article <4556@trantor.harris-atd.com> chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) writes:
> >> BOSS doesn't beep.
> >
> >     BOSS does beep.  Three beeps actually: daily alarm, scheduled alarms,
> >and keyboard click.
> 
> Which model?  I looked at the 32 and 64, and scanned the documentation, but
> there was no mention of audible alarms.  How programmable are the scheduled 
> alarms?  Can one program a recurring alarm every week, plus special ones?

     BOSS models are numbered SF-7000, SF-7500, SF-8000, SF-9000, and SF-9500.
The 7000 has 32K of memory, the others have 64K.  The 8000 and 9500 offer a
larger, chiclet keyboard, while the 7000, 7500, and 9000 have a membrane
keyboard.  The 9000 and 9500 have expander cards available.  All models have
the same alarm features.

     The scheduled alarms can be set for any time of the day.  There are no
recurring alarms, except for a single daily alarm, unfortunately.  The 
schedule alarm can be set to a time independent of the actual event, so you
can get an alarm at 9:30 for a 10:00 appointment.

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stan@hprpcd.HP.COM (Stan Witherspoon) (10/20/90)

I have an Atari Portfolio and it 

     *	Beeps (but don't expect to hear it in a noisy environment)
     *	dials phone numbers
     *	has a Lotus compatible Spreadsheet in ROM (no database or
	graphics functions)
     *	has a built in address book/flat file database
     *	has a builtin calander and appointment minder
     *	has a builtin calculator (not RPN just 5 function + memories)
     *	has a built in editor with word wrap
     *	can be programmed with most PC languages and code downloaded
	(rumor has it that the old GW-Basic and Turbo Pascal 3.0 will
	run on it if you are careful)
     *	can talk to the outside world with accessories (serial,
	parallel, or build your own off of the expansion port)
     *	comes with 128 KB of RAM built in and you can add a 128K RAM
	card (looks like a disk) for more storage.

 The Portfolio will not

     *	Fit in most peoples pockets
     *	Run large applications such as Dbase, Windows 3.0 or Unix (TM)
     *	Run PC applications that write to the hardware (which is most of
	them. :-{ )
     *	cost you megabucks. List is $399. I have seen it as low as $319
     *	allow most people to touch type on the keyboard. (but I was
	astounded at how fast I could go because I can see the keyboard
	and the screen at the same time!)

If you have any more questions, send me email.

Stan


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