[comp.sys.handhelds] 48 archive crash

neil@kcl-cs.UUCP (Neil Faulks) (12/18/90)

I just tried archiving my 48 onto my PC. The transfer proceeded okay
and the PC beeped at the end of the transfer as normal. The 48 also
beeped but when I looked at the screen it had the dreaded - Try to
recover memory prompt.
I hit YES but ended up with loads of dirs called d.01 .. d.09 etc.
Fortunately the archive had worked and I was able to download it again.

I have one 128K card and version D ROMS. I was using about 74K total.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on!!!! I know that there
used to be a bug associated with ver A ROMS and the clock, but I
think my clock was off anyway.

TDSTRONG%MTUS5.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (12/20/90)

On Wed, 19 Dec 1990 06:40 CST         :
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>I just tried archiving my 48 onto my PC. The transfer proceeded okay
>and the PC beeped at the end of the transfer as normal. The 48 also
>beeped but when I looked at the screen it had the dreaded - Try to
>recover memory prompt.
>I hit YES but ended up with loads of dirs called d.01 .. d.09 etc.
>Fortunately the archive had worked and I was able to download it again.
>
>I have one 128K card and version D ROMS. I was using about 74K total.
>
>Does anyone have any idea what is going on!!!! I know that there
>used to be a bug associated with ver A ROMS and the clock, but I
>think my clock was off anyway.

I believe the clock bug is in all ROMS except maybe E.

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metcalf@akala.IFA.Hawaii.Edu (Tom Metcalf) (12/20/90)

In article <1888@xenon.kcl-cs.UUCP>, neil@kcl-cs.UUCP (Neil Faulks) writes:
|> 
|> I just tried archiving my 48 onto my PC. The transfer proceeded okay
|> and the PC beeped at the end of the transfer as normal. The 48 also
|> beeped but when I looked at the screen it had the dreaded - Try to
|> recover memory prompt.
|> I hit YES but ended up with loads of dirs called d.01 .. d.09 etc.
|> Fortunately the archive had worked and I was able to download it again.
|> 
|> I have one 128K card and version D ROMS. I was using about 74K total.
|> 
|> Does anyone have any idea what is going on!!!! I know that there
|> used to be a bug associated with ver A ROMS and the clock, but I
|> think my clock was off anyway.

You probably had your clock display on.  This will cause a crash on occasion
when archiving.  I believe this was fixed in E ROMs, but I have  a D so
I not sure.

Tom Metcalf

rrd@hpfcso.HP.COM (Ray Depew) (12/21/90)

> I just tried archiving my 48 onto my PC. The transfer proceeded okay
> and the PC beeped at the end of the transfer as normal. The 48 also
> beeped but when I looked at the screen it had the dreaded - Try to
> recover memory prompt.
> I hit YES but ended up with loads of dirs called d.01 .. d.09 etc.
> Fortunately the archive had worked and I was able to download it again.
> 
> I have one 128K card and version D ROMS. I was using about 74K total.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what is going on!!!! I know that there
> used to be a bug associated with ver A ROMS and the clock, but I
> think my clock was off anyway.

I had the same thing happen to me last night.  I'd forgotten to turn off the
clock before archiving.  Fortunately, RESTORE-ing memory wasn't bad -- but
it sure takes a long time to restore 97 kb of stuff!

I know you said you think the clock was off, but that's probably what 
happened to you.
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Regards
Ray Depew
IC's by Bill and Dave   
rrd@hpfitst1.hp.com

akcs.kevin@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Kevin Jessup) (12/22/90)

My 48SX (REV A) also died.  The clock was OFF and the baud rate was
4800 baud!  Figure that one out!

madler@eeyore.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) (12/23/90)

My rev A would die about 1/4 of the time doing archives until Bill Wickes
told me that turning off the clock would cure the problem.  I then added
that to my backup program, so my archives are now *always* done with the
clock off.  I emphasize this because once, and only once, since I did that,
an archive failed in precisely the same way.  I estimate I had done about
30 or 40 archives in that time.

I would conclude then that turning off the clock drastically reduces the
probability of the that failure, but does not eliminate it completely.

Mark Adler
madler@pooh.caltech.edu

akcs.falco@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Andrey Dolgachev) (12/23/90)

I have also had the same problem, I archived my HP memory onto my Mac,
and my calculator bomembed and said memory lost.  However, I did not have
my clock on.  I have a version D calculator.  Any ideas, anyone?
  ----Falco

jmr@psuecl.bitnet (12/31/90)

In article <27740b76:1474.3comp.sys.handhelds;1@hpcvbbs.UUCP>, akcs.falco@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Andrey Dolgachev) writes:
> I have also had the same problem, I archived my HP memory onto my Mac,
> and my calculator bomembed and said memory lost.  However, I did not have
> my clock on.  I have a version D calculator.  Any ideas, anyone?
>   ----Falco

Exactly how do you determine the version of the calculator?

Joe Reinhardt

akcs.falco@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Andrey Dolgachev) (01/03/91)

O.K>, for Joe and anyone else, this is how you get your version
number(letter):  Press On and D at the same time, this puts you in
self-test mode, now press the delete key (DROP), this puts you in the
memory scanner mode, now just press EVAL and voila.
       ---Falco