EWLARSON@MTUS5.BITNET (01/24/91)
Is there anyone who uses Telnet to get to the HPBBS, and if so how do
you go about downloading files from it. I am constantly being told
that this is physically immpossible to do, yet somehow people are
downloading files from the BBS. If anyone has any suggestions or
alternative methods of reaching the HPBBS that does allow for downloads
I would greatly appreciate the info.
Thanx
Erik W. Larson
EWLARSON@MTUS5bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) (01/25/91)
In a posting of [23 Jan 91 23:41:35 GMT] EWLARSON@MTUS5.BITNET writes: > Is there anyone who uses Telnet to get to the HPBBS, and if so how do > you go about downloading files from it. Well, there are several ways. You can capture the output with script, photo, or however you do on your system. I always connect to HPCVBBS through a Gnu Emacs buffer, and so automatically capture the output. If I like to write a message, I can conveniently move around in the buffer and see what other people have said previously. To transfer a file, use the "ASCII" protocol. This only works with plain text files, YET. So, what I'd like to see the maintenance folks do, is to add two more protocols: UUENCODE and/or BTOA. I don't use HPCVBBS too often, most notably because only text files can be conveniently transferred. -- Jan Brittenson bson@ai.mit.edu ;; "Make sure the brain is connected before the mouth is started."
akcs.rkb@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Robert Brunner) (01/25/91)
The robust method of accessing files over the network is to
use the ftp program, which allows file transfers but does
not allow you to read articles. Furthermore, the files
must be explicitly placed in certain directories so
that you can access them. I have had success, however,
using my PC to connect to a Unix machine, telnet'ing
to hpcvbbs, and using kermit to transfer from there
to my PC. This only works when the network traffic
and the bbs are not too heavily loaded.
Robert Brunner
brunner@uirvld.csl.uiuc.educloos@acsu.buffalo.edu (James H. Cloos) (01/25/91)
Another option, rather than adding BTOA and/or UUENCODE protocols as Jan suggests, is to go thru and set up links from the attached files to a directory on that file system (akcs is running under UNIX, remember). Then, if the /pub directory is on a different file system, you put in a symbolic link from w/in pub to the directory with the hard links to the attached files. Now ftp transfer is readily available for all of the files. This would not take too long to do for those files already there, and if doing this for files added in the future cannot be automated (I'm not familiar enough with akcs to know--I don't even know if it is a commercial or free/shareware program) doing the additions by hand still won't take very long; traffic on the bbs doesn't seem to be THAT huge. Any takers?? -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. Phone: +1 716 673-1250 cloos@ACSU.Buffalo.EDU Snail: PersonalZipCode: 14048-0772, USA cloos@ub.UUCP Quote: <>
JMFITZGE@SBCCVM (John Fitzgerald) (01/26/91)
Erik,
I have also experienced the opaqueness of using 'telnet'.
It IS impossible to D/L or U/L directly with it. I work on both
an D
~8IBM 3090 and a UNIX Workstation. I have not found a method of
logging a session using the IBM 3090, but, using a command like:
telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > session.log
on the UNIX, you can get a log of the session, and after D/L using
ASCII as the transfer protocol, you can edit the session.log file
down to useful data. It's a real pain in the butt, but it's the only
way I can see to do it! By the way, you can't U/L with this method.
Well, good luck,
John Fitzgerald