eddy@jafus.mi.org (Eddy J. Gurney) (02/20/91)
In article <1991Feb19.144528.28579@javelin.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com writes: >TNA32@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (FRINGE) writes: > >>HP says they just toss the calculators. >>They just toss 'em, they don't even recycle the displays. > >Has anyone been wandering around the Corvallis city dump? ;-) My sentiments exactly! You'd think somewhere out there someone would LOVE a Revision A HP-48 for, say, $150 with a 30-day warranty. I know a couple of people who would gladly jump at that offer. And to think they're being thrown away?!?! That means a Rev A 48 for $0! I'm surprised EduCalc or someone hasn't talked to HP about some kind of deal. Geez... you'd think they'd at least give them to their employees as paper weights or something... 8-) -- Eddy J. Gurney N8FPW THE ECCENTRICITY GROUP EEEEGGGG eddy@jafus.mi.org gurney@frith.egr.msu.edu 17158EJG@MSU.BITNET EEE G GG (Preferred) (If your mail bounces) (If you HAVE to :-) EEEEGGGG
wscott@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Wayne H Scott) (02/20/91)
eddy@jafus.mi.org (Eddy J. Gurney) writes: > In article <1991Feb19.144528.28579@javelin.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com writes: > >TNA32@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (FRINGE) writes: > > > >>HP says they just toss the calculators. > >>They just toss 'em, they don't even recycle the displays. > > > >Has anyone been wandering around the Corvallis city dump? ;-) > Apple did a similar thing about a year ago when they dumped 5000 Apple Lisa's in a landfill and had them buried. (They weren't that bad :) If HP gives away or sells the old calcs, they will only hurt their profits on new calculator sales. -- _________________________________________________________________________ Wayne Scott | INTERNET: wscott@ecn.purdue.edu Electrical Engineering | BITNET: wscott%ecn.purdue.edu@purccvm Purdue University | UUCP: purdue, pur-ee}!ecn.purdue.edu!wscott
TDSTRONG%MTUS5.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Tim Strong) (02/20/91)
>> >>>HP says they just toss the calculators. >>>They just toss 'em, they don't even recycle the displays. >> >>Has anyone been wandering around the Corvallis city dump? ;-) > Yeah I know it is a shame. But I'm quite sure that any 48 that makes it to the dump gets there in many tiny little pieces. ====================================================================== ___ I__) _ _I _ _ TIM STRONG <TDSTRONG%MTUS5.BITNET@CUNYVM.EDU> I \ (_I (_I (_I I MICHIGAN TECH. HOUGHTON, MICHIGAN ======================================================================
TNA32@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (FRINGE) (02/20/91)
By performing what has basically been a recall on the A's (etc), they have kind of admitted that the calculators were defective. By then giving them away, or worse, sellng them, they would really chew up their image. yeah it's kinda a waste to toss em, but what's more of a waste is that they produced them in the first place. THEY KNEW they had lots of bugs, and sold them anyway. In with my A there was an "anomoly" sheet (bug report) that listed all the machines THROUGH the D. Go figure. If they already knew there were bugs in the D, they must have had them in production, why were they still releasing A's? They were trying to get away with users not knowing that there were better versions available. I think that this net actually had something to do with their change in heart. that's my piece. -mike "Bite the wax tadpole...." Mark Banas
lishka@uwslh.slh.wisc.edu (a.k.a. Chri) (02/20/91)
wscott@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Wayne H Scott) writes: >Apple did a similar thing about a year ago when they dumped 5000 Apple Lisa's >in a landfill and had them buried. (They weren't that bad :) How sad.... >If HP gives away or sells the old calcs, they will only hurt their profits >on new calculator sales. Not if they gave the Rev [ABC] hp48's to those that could not afford them in the first place...say, a public school in an poor neighborhood or some place similar. Granted, giving away cheap calculators to those that could afford them would hurt profits, but there are others who would benefit from them. .oO Chris Oo. -- Christopher Lishka 608-262-4485 We carry in our hearts the true country, Wisconsin State Lab. of Hygiene And that cannot be stolen. lishka@uwslh.slh.wisc.edu We follow in the steps of our ancestry, uunet!uwvax!uwslh!lishka And that cannot be broken. -- Midnight Oil
rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew) (02/22/91)
>Does anyone know what HP is doing with all those revision A, B, and C >machines that are being upgraded to revision E? I sort of assumed >that instead of just throwing them away HP might actually be giving a >whole bunch away to some "charitable organization" (like a school). >It seems a shame to throw away a whole bunch of state-of-the-art >calculators with a few software bugs. I don't know about warranty returns, but store returns are "sold" inside HP for company bizniz only. It's almost the only way an HP employee can get one for business purposes. (Smiley optional) Regards Ray Depew HP ICBD, Fort Collins CO rrd@hpfitst1.hp.com
tomm@voodoo.UUCP (Tom Mackey) (02/22/91)
In article <1991Feb19.223641.18988@en.ecn.purdue.edu> wscott@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Wayne H Scott) writes: >eddy@jafus.mi.org (Eddy J. Gurney) writes: >> In article <1991Feb19.144528.28579@javelin.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com writes: +> >TNA32@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (FRINGE) writes: +> > +> >>HP says they just toss the calculators. +> >>They just toss 'em, they don't even recycle the displays. +> > +> >Has anyone been wandering around the Corvallis city dump? ;-) +> + +Apple did a similar thing about a year ago when they dumped 5000 Apple Lisa's +in a landfill and had them buried. (They weren't that bad :) + + +If HP gives away or sells the old calcs, they will only hurt their profits +on new calculator sales. Maybe. Maybe not..... Take me, for instance. I don't have a real NEED for an HP48, and being married with a couple of kids, I can't justify it just on hobby principles. So I will not buy a new one, no matter how much I want one. I'll just bide my time and pick one up used sometime. For the same reason, I just last year found a good enough deal on a 41CV to be able to get it and not think I was being too calvilier (sp?) with the family funds. Yeah, I wanted one since the first 41 came out, but just couldn't swing it. "Good things come to those who wait." (Ya just gotta hope they come soon enough that ya remember why ya wanted 'em! ;^) But if HP offered me as a netter a good deal on an early rom model, I'd jump at the chance. Like I suggested earlier, mark it no return and with the understanding that they wouldn't have to expend any energy in supporting it, and I'd be happy, they'd make a sale they would not otherwise make, and we'd all live happily ever after ;^) Now I know there are flaws in that logic; certainly not everyone taking advantage of an offer like that would have not purchased (gee, how's that for a doubly negative conditional?), and there would be the netters clueing in their non-net friends, but hey, its the thought that counts. At the very least, it is a crime in terms of natural resources to throw out stuff like slightly out of date computers and calculators when the public school systems would LOVE to be able to put them in the hands of the kids. (Looking puzzled from the top of his soap box, and finally tottering off stage), -- Tom Mackey (206) 865-6575 tomm@voodoo.boeing.com Boeing Computer Services ....uunet!bcstec!voodoo!tomm M/S 7K-20, P.O. Box 24346, Seattle, WA 98124-0346
darrylo@hpnmdla.hp.com (Darryl Okahata) (03/07/91)
In comp.sys.handhelds, eddy@jafus.mi.org (Eddy J. Gurney) writes: > Geez... you'd think they'd at least give them to their employees as paper > weights or something... 8-) It's also possible that HP employees who buy 48SX calculators through the employee purchase plan will get the old ROM revs. -- Darryl Okahata UUCP: {hplabs!, hpcea!, hpfcla!} hpnmd!darrylo Internet: darrylo%hpnmd@relay.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the little green men that have been following him all day.