[comp.sys.handhelds] Just when you thought is was safe....

taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) (04/24/91)

This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups showed
up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the hp95lx
accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just been
announced!)  

Good planning, guys.

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                                             >>>==>PStJTT
                                     Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber, KC1TD

"Nerd" is so demeaning, I prefer "fashion-impared."

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu (Jeff E Mandel MD MS) (04/25/91)

In article <4513@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:
>This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups showed
>up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the hp95lx
>accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just been
>announced!)  
>
>Good planning, guys.
>

As I recall, the issue of the (at the time) unnamed future HP DOS handheld was
discussed, and it was felt to have nothing in common with the issues of
interest to the HP48 community, other than manufacturer. After all, there
probably isn't a version of Tetris for it yet, so why get excited? :-)

Once administartive details have been ironed out, c.s.hp48[.d] will be open for
business. Hopefully in a week...


Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Asst. Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA
mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu

asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) (04/25/91)

In article <4513@ryn.mro4.dec.com> taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:

>This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups showed
>up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the hp95lx
>accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just been
>announced!)  

I have ...hp48, but not ...hp48.d. when do I start getting articles for
them??

Andy

ryee@hpuxa.acs.ohio-state.edu (Roger A. Yee) (04/26/91)

In article <6659@acorn.co.uk> asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) writes:
>In article <4513@ryn.mro4.dec.com> taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:
>
>>This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups showed
>>up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the hp95lx
>>accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just been
>>announced!)  
>
>I have ...hp48, but not ...hp48.d. when do I start getting articles for
>them??
>
>Andy



Well you're lucky.  They have yet to show up on my server.

Roger Yee

conte@crest.crhc.uiuc.edu (Tom Conte) (04/26/91)

In article <4513@ryn.mro4.dec.com> taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:
>This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups showed
>up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the hp95lx
>accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just been
>announced!)  
> 

Patrick, you betray your actual reason for advocating the comp.sys.handhelds
split.  Obviously, the HP-95LX is a handheld, and of course it is not related
to the HP-48SX.  This is an appropriate group for it to be discussed.  This
group was chartered for exactly such a machine.

Until some way-far advance in software happens, it is impossible to guarantee
any newsgroup will contain all the information interesting to the reader and
no more than that.  (If you read news.admin and news.groups you will discover
how difficult it is for the masses to understand this principle.)

------
Tom Conte	  Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing
 conte@uiuc.edu   University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, Illinois
		  Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis, Endeavour

rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) (04/26/91)

OK, let's get the discussion going.  Who's in favor of splitting off a 
couple of new groups, ...hp95 and ...hp95.d?

-- 
 - Rich Holmes                  rich@suhep.bitnet or rich@suhep.phy.syr.edu
   Syracuse U. Physics Dept.     or if you must: rsholmes@rodan.acs.syr.edu

   The Kuwaitis have oil.  The Kurds don't.  End of story.

taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber) (04/29/91)

In article <1991Apr25.194605.11669@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>,
conte@crest.crhc.uiuc.edu (Tom Conte) writes:
|>
|>In article <4513@ryn.mro4.dec.com> taber@ultnix.enet.dec.com (Patrick
|>St. Joseph Teahan Taber) writes:
|>>This is too, too rich --  today the ....hp48 and ...hp48.d groups
|>showed
|>>up on my system.  But when I go look in comp.sys.handhelds, the
|>hp95lx
|>>accounts for several hundred lines of postings (and it's only just
|>been
|>>announced!)  
|>> 
|>
|>Patrick, you betray your actual reason for advocating the
|>comp.sys.handhelds
|>split.  Obviously, the HP-95LX is a handheld, and of course it is not
|>related
|>to the HP-48SX.  This is an appropriate group for it to be discussed. 
|>This
|>group was chartered for exactly such a machine.
|>
|>Until some way-far advance in software happens, it is impossible to
|>guarantee
|>any newsgroup will contain all the information interesting to the
|>reader and
|>no more than that.  (If you read news.admin and news.groups you will
|>discover
|>how difficult it is for the masses to understand this principle.)
|>

What a fascinating response.  I advocated the split?  Silly me.  I
thought I argued (and voted) against it.  I especially argued against
splitting along the lines of a single calculator model from a single
manufacturer.  Which is why I find it funny that the group is buried in
hp95 articles on the very day it seemed to spin off the hp48 for the
crime of causing too many articles.

As it happens, I was mistaken -- the split has apparently been flubbed. 
According to a note posted to comp.sys.hp48.d there is some problem
getting the group approved.  The groups may yet appear under some other
name. (Somehow that seems, to me, to violate the idea of the vote -- but
who cares, right?)  

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                                             >>>==>PStJTT
                                     Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber, KC1TD

"Nerd" is so demeaning, I prefer "fashion-impared."