[comp.sys.handhelds] HP-95LX Review

dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen) (04/24/91)

The May 1991 issue of PC Computing has a 3-4 page article about the
HP-95LX, with a distant photo of the machine.  It appears to not be
touchtypeable, but it looks pretty slick anyway.  It is nice and compact
and runs for 2-3 MONTHS on 2 AA batteries.  It appears that an AC
adapter is a $15 option.

The 95LX has Lotus 1-2-3, Lotus Metro, and the HP-19B in ROM, among
other things.  It looks like it REQUIRES a separate connectivity pack in
order to move other DOS programs over from a PC ($99).  The RAM cards
(128KB and 512KB) are like floppy disks, albeit rather expensive.

Availability looks like early May, according to EduCalc.  My order is
already placed, sight unseen.  I post more when I get it.

Dan Allen
Apple Computer

frank@grep.co.uk (Frank Wales) (04/25/91)

In article <51907@apple.Apple.COM> dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen) writes:
>The May 1991 issue of PC Computing has a 3-4 page article about the
>HP-95LX, with a distant photo of the machine.  It appears to not be
>touchtypeable, but it looks pretty slick anyway.  It is nice and compact
>and runs for 2-3 MONTHS on 2 AA batteries.  It appears that an AC
>adapter is a $15 option.

It definitely isn't touch-typeable unless you have the hands of a
four-year old child.  It is a very slick-looking piece of kit.  A
reasonable feel for its dimensions can be got by turning a 28 on its
side and imagining the lower half of the case 50% thicker than it is.

HP are sufficiently reluctant about its word-processing abilities that
they played them down at the UK launch of the 95 on Tuesday, in favour
of calling it a "business decision support tool."  A journalist from the
UK magazine Personal Computer World reports that the new Poqet ROM card
of WordPerfect works in it, so there seems to be a potential to steal
much of the effort which has gone into that machine immediately, modulo
any problems with virtual versus real screen size and CGA graphics.  The
machine is claimed to run at two-and-a-half times the speed of a PC-XT,
and uses a custom Intel chip to replace all the circuitry of an XT
except the processor, which is an NEC V20.

Sixty hours is the official battery life estimate; I assume this applies
to alkaline cells rather than rechargeable or cheap batteries.  The
unit has a separate button cell which maintains the contents of
memory while the main batteries are being changed.

>The 95LX has Lotus 1-2-3, Lotus Metro, and the HP-19B in ROM, among
>other things.

Neither HP nor Lotus, who co-hosted the launch, mentioned the names
'Metro' or 'HP 19B' once, that I can remember.  They did discuss in
detail the various features of the software beyond 1-2-3 and the
"full-featured HP financial calculator", as it was referred to.  It's
more than a 19B, because it uses the whole display for interaction -- it
also has the 19BII's choice of RPN or algebraic logic, but with RPN
documented in Appendix D of the hefty User's Manual; the same appendix
refers the interested reader who wants to learn more about RPN to order
an out-of-print book from EduCalc!  RPN is obviously a major selling
point... 

One cute feature is the ability to call on HP Solve from 1-2-3.
Another is that each of the seven principal built-in applications
(Notepad, Schedules, 123, Phone list, Calculator, um, Harpo and Dopey)
has a special key to switch instantly to that application, preserving
any other pending applications where they are at the time.  In normal
use the User need never see the DOS prompt, which must be a good thing.

>It looks like it REQUIRES a separate connectivity pack in
>order to move other DOS programs over from a PC ($99).

The pack contains a neat utility for exchanging information between the
95 and a PC; it shows a split screen of files, one side the files on the
PC and the other the files on the 95.  You just select the files to
transfer from the menu, and they appear on the other side when the
transfer is done.  No messing with configuration options or speeds or
other random details.  The cable which comes with the pack bears a
remarkable resemblance to the RS-232 cable for a certain other HP
calculator product.

I/R exchange between two 95s works much like that between two 48s,
except that the range is supposedly six feet rather than six inches;
obviously engineers and students work closer together than business
decision makers.

A future feature touted at the launch was the planned peripheral,
developed by Motorola, which allows the 95 to act on text paging
messages received in the field.  With a cellular phone attachment,
one could have pocket e-mail.  (Dowty offer this service in the UK 
already, but not as part of a personal computer.)

It will be interesting to compare the success of this machine with the
previous HP/Lotus offspring, the HP-110 (a.k.a. Portable), whose original
version also had a limited screen size and 1-2-3 and DOS in ROM.

Having imagined many useful abilites of the machine, a review of it in
today's Guardian newspaper brings one down to earth by pointing out the
impact this machine may have on the efficacy of insurance salesmen.
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feustel@netcom.COM (David Feustel) (04/27/91)

I would like to see the 95 come out in a super 48sx version with 48sx
key labels, etc. I would almost upgrade right now.
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rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew) (05/01/91)

In  comp.sys.handhelds, dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen) writes:

> (Re: HP-95LX) ... It appears to not be
> touchtypeable, but it looks pretty slick anyway....

I think the manual(s?) says something like "you can't touch-type on this
machine", but I may be mistaken.  In any case, I have caught myself 
unconsciously touch-typing on it, until something upsets its balance and it
falls over.  A lead plate in the bottom of it would make it easier to touch
type on, but with other undesirable consequences.

> ...  It looks like it REQUIRES a separate connectivity pack in
> order to move other DOS programs over from a PC ($99).

I don't think it's required, as the built-in Kermit and Xmodem are pretty
robust and easy to use.  It just makes things easier.  (I don't speak for
HP here, mind you...)

Enjoy.
Ray

anthony@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) (05/11/91)

In article <1460013@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> cook@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Steve Cook) writes:
>What if...?  The 95 or its successor had a simple plug-in port for a
>"standard" keyboard which locked out the built-in keyboard.  I'm assuming

Well, there are several laptops with such a port.  With an external
keyboard and display, you can just fold up the laptop and put it in a
corner.  There already are full sized keyboards with standard RS-232
serial ports instead of the special keyboard serial ports used on most
MS-DOS boxes.  With the right driver one of these could be plugged into
an HP-95LX.  It would be pretty nifty to have a setup like this.  It's
interesting how in the past few years how I/O hardware has begun to
dominate physically and economically the rest of a system.

Personally, I don't have a problem with small keyboards.  I've found I
can type surprisingly well on the non-qwerty keyboard on my Psion
Organiser.  The qwerty keyboard on the Atari Portfolio was tolerable
for the hour or so that I played with it, although the spacebar was a
problem.  Of course, keyboard preferance is another one of those
personal issues.
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conrad@popvax.uucp (M20400@c.nobili) (05/12/91)

In article <12063@uwm.edu> anthony@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:
>Personally, I don't have a problem with small keyboards.  I've found I
>can type surprisingly well on the non-qwerty keyboard on my Psion
>Organiser.  The qwerty keyboard on the Atari Portfolio was tolerable
>for the hour or so that I played with it, although the spacebar was a
>problem.  Of course, keyboard preferance is another one of those
>personal issues.

I agree.  I never had any problem with the "alphabetical" keyboards either.  And
remember that some of us don't use QWERTY keyboards on our desktop computers 
either!  Dvorak keyboards are much superior (IMnvHO)!  Many of you people spend
so much time debating the ergonomics and feel and keys and ... of keyboards that
it amazes me that often a much more important issue is ignored.  Many of you
spend as much time talking about keyboards as you probably spend trying to type
on your QWERTY dinosaurs ;-) !  (Actually, I am convinced, from the amount of
HORRENDOUS typos that I see in this group, that many of you read and post news
from your calculators and palmtops ;-) !)  (Oh, I hope I don't offend any of
you for whom English is not your native language, or those of you who do only
have small keyboards or screens for posting....  I am sure I would fare MUCH
worse under those conditions!  I was just making an observation.  Besides, I
seem to have an error-correcting brain....)

The real solution for very small (handheld) computers would seem to me to be
chording keyboards.  I think I remember having heard something about a (Brit?)
(no offense meant -- I was near the end of the line) handheld with one?  Does
anyone know if this is true or just a figment of my fevered mind?  Are there
any standards for chording keyboards?  Anyone know why the manufacturers have
basically ignored this idea?  (OK, so the answer to that last one is probably
the same as the answer to the question about why so many of you use QWERTY....)

Personally, I am waiting for cortical jacks at the base of the skull....  ;-)

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You can do it in software easily.  You can find stuff for both DOS and Mac OS
on good ftp archives and (presumably) BBSes.  Try it!  You'll like it!  (Oh, I
guess you should also be able to make a new termcap for UNIX (I always log in
from a PC or Mac though)....)  (And I think you can do it on VM/CMS with the
SET INPUT and SET OUTPUT commands, although I never finished investigating this
method....)

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frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) (05/13/91)

In article <6747@husc6.harvard.edu> conrad@popvax.uucp (M20400@c.nobili) writes:
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>            ; Q J K X B M W V Z
>
>You can do it in software easily.  You can find stuff for both DOS and Mac OS
>on good ftp archives and (presumably) BBSes.  Try it!  You'll like it!  (Oh, I
>guess you should also be able to make a new termcap for UNIX (I always log in
>from a PC or Mac though)....)  (And I think you can do it on VM/CMS with the
>SET INPUT and SET OUTPUT commands, although I never finished investigating this
>method....)
I just thought I would remark on this.. I know that the dvorak keyboard is 
fine and swell.. I would much rather have learned on dvorak just as I 
would much rather have learned metric to begin with.  But be careful where you
throw your remarks.. I have access to over 150 machines on campus here and 
99% of them are UNIX.  None of them have dvorak keyboards, all of them, I need
to be able to type on easily, and emulating dvorak on all UNIX machines is 
not neccessarily possible.  Changing the termcap would not really be a 
viable option either as many of these accounts (namely operator) are shared.

And you wonder why everyone hasnt run out and switched over to dvorak.... .;)
Granted, we make mistakes on the good ol qwerty keyboards but they get the 
job done.  (Trivia note.. the qwerty keyboard was made with the word 
"typewriter" hidden in the top row intentionally ;)

	ian

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cpetterb@glacier.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg) (05/15/91)

In article <1460013@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> cook@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Steve Cook) writes:

>   What if...?  The 95 or its successor had a simple plug-in port for a
>   "standard" keyboard which locked out the built-in keyboard.  I'm assuming
>   this feature doesn't already exist (I haven't seen a 95 yet).  Airlines
>   could provide these standard keyboards for passengers like they now do
>   with headsets (a United Airlines/HP partnership?).  Owners could keep a
>   standard keyboard at home, work, etc.  or just carry it separately.  I
>   think a plug-in keyboard feature would make the palmtop more somewhat
>   more useable (and desireable).

I saw a keyboard at SIGCHI that was a one-handed keyboard.  It worked pretty
well, and was about one third the size of a standard keyboard.  I thought
this would be a great alternative to the keyboards that are on palmtop
computers, especially because you can't always put the palmtop anywhere
but in the palm of one of your hands.  Since the size was much smaller
but the keys were large, it made for easy manipulation by larger hands.

The way that is was designed was to map the right handed keys to the
same fingers on the left hand.  Your brain kind of maps the same fingers
to the other hand.  It was supposed to allow right hand "mousing" with
left hand typing, giving great input bandwidth.

Anybody else see it?  What did you think?

To carry this another step, could a keyboard be created which would
allow two handed input with opposite hands on the same keys (at different
times)?  Comments?

Cary
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