akcs.tasmith@hpcvbbs.UUCP (Ted A Smith) (05/13/91)
Since there are probably others like me who access this group
with a PC and don't have access to a Unix style system and hence
might have problems dealing with uuencode'd files, shell
archives, tar'ed files, etc. I thought that I'ld mention that
the MKS Toolkit (release 3.1) has most (if not all) of the Unix
tools you could want! Using them I can consume all the files
I've seen in this group.
Mortice Kern Systems Inc.
35 King Street North
Waterloo, Ontario N2J 2W9
Canada
Tel: (519) 844-2251
FAX: (519) 884-8861
UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!inquiry
CompuServe User ID: 73260,1043
BIX User Name: mks
I purchased my copy of the toolkit for $199 from:
Programmer's Paradise
1163 Shrewsbury Ave.
Shrewsbury, NJ 07702
Tel: (800) 445-7899
FAX: (908) 389-9227
International: (908) 389-9228
Ted SmithHCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) (05/14/91)
I was wondering why the programs etc on this net couldn't be crunched using
PKZIP ? As you said there are lots of people accessing this net using PC's that
operate under MS-DOS and not UNIX. Also $199.00 is a lot of money for a poor
undergraduate. I have uploaded HP48 programs obtained from the HP-BBS and
uploaded ZIP ed versions to local boards with no trouble.
Harold Climer
Physics Department
U. Tennessee at Chattanoogasilvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) (05/15/91)
In article <48F5A292A0001A3E@gacvx2.gac.edu> HCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) writes: >I was wondering why the programs etc on this net couldn't be crunched using >PKZIP ? As you said there are lots of people accessing this net using PC's that >operate under MS-DOS and not UNIX. Also $199.00 is a lot of money for a poor >undergraduate. I have uploaded HP48 programs obtained from the HP-BBS and >uploaded ZIP ed versions to local boards with no trouble. Unless am mistaken, ZIP only works on the PC. This means that ZIP archives cannot be accessed on other systems. However, there are other archivers like ZOO, ARC, and (less reliably) LZH that can be accessed on Unix boxes, Atari ST's, etc., as well as PC's. So let's use archivers that we can all use. What did you spend $199 for? I missed that point. -- William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biome!silvert BITNET=silvert%biome%dalcs@dalac InterNet=silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca
HCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) (05/18/91)
The $199.00 was mentioned in the original article for a software package of
UNIX tools. I already have PKZIP and PKUNZIP that is why I mentioned it in
inquiry. Also since the node at UTCVM does not have FTP direct ability
and I don't have the programs to uuencode and deuuencode programs and I do
have the above mentioned programs , I just thought I'd ask. Also it was my
impression that certain archived files h .zoo and .tar were un-archivable
only under UNIX ,and I opertate under DOS 4.01.
Harold Climer
Physics Department
University of Tennessee at Chattanoasilvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) (05/19/91)
In article <F5DB71E520003432@gacvx2.gac.edu> HCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) writes: >The $199.00 was mentioned in the original article for a software package of >UNIX tools. I already have PKZIP and PKUNZIP that is why I mentioned it in > inquiry. Also since the node at UTCVM does not have FTP direct ability >and I don't have the programs to uuencode and deuuencode programs and I do >have the above mentioned programs , I just thought I'd ask. Also it was my >impression that certain archived files h .zoo and .tar were un-archivable >only under UNIX ,and I opertate under DOS 4.01. I assume that Harold is referring to the MKS Toolkit (which is excellent). However, many of the standard Unix tools are available free. PD versions of uuencode and uudecode are readily available. ZOO and ARC run under several operating systems (I use them on the PC and Atari TOS), as does LZH (but I hear compatability complaints about this one). As for tar, I believe that there are PD versions. By the way, a caution about the Unix compress. MKS uncompress is 14 bits and cannot handle most Unix compressed files (which are usually 16 bits), but there are PD uncompress programs which do fine. Why MKS cannot do as well as freeware in this area baffles me. -- William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biome!silvert BITNET=silvert%biome%dalcs@dalac InterNet=silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca
fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) (05/24/91)
In article <1991May15.144037.9206@cs.dal.ca> silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca writes: > >Unless am mistaken, ZIP only works on the PC. This means that ZIP >archives cannot be accessed on other systems. However, there are other >archivers like ZOO, ARC, and (less reliably) LZH that can be accessed on >Unix boxes, Atari ST's, etc., as well as PC's. So let's use archivers >that we can all use. Greetings. Not true. Not only do I have UNZIP under UNIX, I also have the source (I'll have to check if there are strings attached ;-) But, it _is_ possible. However, since so many on the net use UNIX, why not use the compress utility (generates a .Z file) I think I have an executable for MS-DOS that will uncompress a UNIX archive. By the way, there is also an utility to un-TAR a file :-) >What did you spend $199 for? I missed that point. So did I.... >-- >William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography >P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 >UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biome!silvert >BITNET=silvert%biome%dalcs@dalac InterNet=silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!"
silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) (05/24/91)
In article <131662@unix.cis.pitt.edu> fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) quotes me: >>Unless am mistaken, ZIP only works on the PC. This means that ZIP >>archives cannot be accessed on other systems. > Greetings. Not true. Not only do I have UNZIP under UNIX, I > also have the source (I'll have to check if there are strings > attached ;-) But, it _is_ possible. Right, I now have unzip running under Unix. Also, there are several versions of uncompress running around. -- William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biome!silvert BITNET=silvert%biome%dalcs@dalac InterNet=silvert%biome@cs.dal.ca