[comp.sys.handhelds] Newsgroup created: alt.sys.hp48

bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) (06/11/91)

   This is the announcement of a newsgroup for discussing all products
and topics directly as well as indirectly relevant to the
Hewlett-Packard 48 series of handhelds/calculators. The newsgroup is
neither moderated nor archived. It may take a couple of days until it
reaches your site.

   The alt.sys.hp48 group is an off-shoot from comp.sys.handhelds,
which has been swamped in HP-48 related postings for well over a year.
A split has been discussed, but the obvious solution: a split over a
specific product line, rather than someone's abstract interpretation
of what makes the newsgroups hierarchy aesthetically pleasing, has
lately been largely ignored. It is my conviction that this
bureaucratic clown show isn't representative of the majority of
comp.sys.handhelds readers, and so in desperation I offered to create
alt.sys.hp48 if I received at least 25 positive responses. The list of
respondents is included at the end of this message.

   Hopefully, alt.sys.hp48 will be an active group, proving the value
of an HP-48 product line specific newsgroup in the comp.* hierarchy.
The creation of which will supersede alt.sys.hp48.

   It is my hope that the discussions in this newsgroup will be
carried out in the polite and mutually respectful tradition we have
all learned to love in comp.sys.handhelds. Please think twice before
posting a flame, or better still: go have lunch and consider a more
meaningful response!

---

   At least 36 readers responded favorably (some responses may have
been lost due to mail server problems, but this would make little
difference):

"The Eyes of a Child"  <FSSTM%ALASKA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Colin Meyer <cmeyer@u.washington.edu>
Fractalman <XXW8409@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Fred Ledley <fledley@mbir.bcm.tmc.edu>
HULSUND@vsfys1.fi.uib.no (John Hulsund, Fysisk Institutt, UiB)
Jack Sinclair <jsinclair@rose.waterloo.edu>
Klaus Kalb <kskalb@immd1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
Math Society <mathsoc@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Michael C. Grant <mcgrant@isl.stanford.edu>
Michael Stribick <mikes@aragon.stgt.sub.org>
Nils Audun Bj|rlo Kristensen <nilsk@ifi.uio.no>
Rick.Wagoner@ebay.sun.com (Rick Wagoner)
Tapani Tarvainen <tt@tarzan.jyu.fi>
VODDERIE WIM <GHGALAN%BLEKUL11.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
abaumhau%locutus@uunet.uu.net (Andy Baumhauer)
berg@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg)
crain@cps.msu.edu
d89-mdl@sm.luth.se
d89-mlt@sm.luth.se
eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
frechett@spot.colorado.edu (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
grue@cs.uq.oz.au
kevin vashi <kvashi@aunix.fullerton.edu>
kjell@ygdrasil.ucsc.edu (Kjell E Post)
kolstad@cae.wisc.edu
ksmith@jarthur.claremont.edu
matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
rob@ireta.cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Rob Prior)
rrauenza@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard J. Rauenzahn)
stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
streeter@im.lcs.mit.edu (Kenneth B Streeter)
taff@kate.ucsc.edu (Tom Affinito)
thornton@cs.sfu.ca
tibbs@hplsclbt.hpl.hp.com
tumavitc@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Tumavitch)


Happy hacking,

						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@ai.mit.edu

CERVEIRA%IFQSC.USP.ANSP.BR@UICVM.uic.edu (Luis C. G. Cerveira da Silva) (06/11/91)

        Could someone, explain me how will work the new alt.sys.hp48 ??
        I want to know if I need to unsubscribe the comp.sys.handhelds or not
        Please, put some more informations on the net.
        Thanks in advance .


                                T.C. (phone home)

HCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) (06/11/91)

On Mon, 10 Jun 1991 19:40 CST you said:
>From: bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson)
>Date: 10 Jun 91 23:05:37 GMT
>Sender: news@ai.mit.edu
>Organization: nil
>Keywords: hp48
>Summary: HP-48 product specific newsgroup
>Article-I.D.: life.16426
>
>
>   This is the announcement of a newsgroup for discussing all products
>and topics directly as well as indirectly relevant to the
>Hewlett-Packard 48 series of handhelds/calculators. The newsgroup is
>neither moderated nor archived. It may take a couple of days until it
>reaches your site.
>
>   The alt.sys.hp48 group is an off-shoot from comp.sys.handhelds,
>which has been swamped in HP-48 related postings for well over a year.
>A split has been discussed, but the obvious solution: a split over a
>specific product line, rather than someone's abstract interpretation
>of what makes the newsgroups hierarchy aesthetically pleasing, has
>lately been largely ignored. It is my conviction that this
>bureaucratic clown show isn't representative of the majority of
>comp.sys.handhelds readers, and so in desperation I offered to create
>alt.sys.hp48 if I received at least 25 positive responses. The list of
>respondents is included at the end of this message.
>
>   Hopefully, alt.sys.hp48 will be an active group, proving the value
>of an HP-48 product line specific newsgroup in the comp.* hierarchy.
>The creation of which will supersede alt.sys.hp48.
>
>   It is my hope that the discussions in this newsgroup will be
>carried out in the polite and mutually respectful tradition we have
>all learned to love in comp.sys.handhelds. Please think twice before
>posting a flame, or better still: go have lunch and consider a more
>meaningful response!
>
>---
>
>   At least 36 readers responded favorably (some responses may have
>been lost due to mail server problems, but this would make little
>difference):
>
>
>Happy hacking,
>
>						-- Jan Brittenson
>						   bson@ai.mit.edu

( Names of people deleted)

           Several questions:

  1. How does one subscribe to this new newsgroup?
  2. Will all 48 specific questions go to this group only or also to Comp.Sys.
     Handhelds for people who have limited disk space for mail from the net and
     don't think they can afford to subscribe to both groups.( I use the
  IBM VM/SP  for other things than reading and storing mail)
  3. Is this group being started by you alone or is it a sub-group of the
 Comp.Sys.Handhelds at GAC.VM.EDU ?

                                   Harold Climer
                                   Physics Department
                                   U. Tennessee at Chattanooga

bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) (06/12/91)

In a posting of [11 Jun 91 16:57:57 GMT]
   HCLIMER%UTCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Harold Climer) writes:

 >  1. How does one subscribe to this new newsgroup?

	1. Get an account on a system with a news feed

	2. Type "rn" and RETURN (non 3270 stuff)

	3. Type "g alt.sys.hp48" and RETURN

Or use any of the other half a dozen or so news readers.

   Comp.sys.handhelds is not a mailing list, nor is alt.sys.hp48. It's
not RSCS-NET, you know...


 >  2. Will all 48 specific questions go to this group only or also to Comp.Sys.
 >     Handhelds 

They will go wherever people post them.


 > for people who have limited disk space for mail from the net and don't
 > think they can afford to subscribe to both groups.( I use the IBM
 > VM/SP for other things than reading and storing mail)

   Ask someone to set up a local shared distribution point and write a
couple of XEDIT (CMS EXEC, or Rexx, or whatever) scripts for you,
unless you do it yourself, to read the shared messages.


 >  3. Is this group being started by you alone or is it a sub-group of the
 > Comp.Sys.Handhelds at GAC.VM.EDU ?

   Again, it's a newsgroup, not a mailing list. GAC.VM.EDU only
transmutes the news feed into a mailing list for the benefit of
readers who do not have access to a news feed.

						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@ai.mit.edu