[comp.sys.handhelds] Special Offer/Group Buying - HP Calcs !

stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L. Chan) (06/14/91)

I don't know where to post this ... So here it is ...

NEW HP calculators at great price!

I can arrange a special deal to get new HP calculators for very low prices
provided that enough people place their order with me.

If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 48sx, I can obtain a
price at around $350 each (GST & shipping extra). Price can be reduced,
provided I can gather more orders.

If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 95LX, 
$710 each (GST & shipping extra). Again, more orders will result in 
cheaper price.

Other models are available too!

Please e-mail me if you are interested, and I can arrange from there.
I will e-mail back with details.

p.s. I pay for the usage of this account, and I am not in any way affiliated 
with U of T.

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| Lawrence Chan                     stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca |
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mbarr@lucy.umd.edu (Michael Barr) (06/14/91)

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	I don't know where to post this ... So here it is ...
	
	NEW HP calculators at great price!
	
	I can arrange a special deal to get new HP calculators for very low prices
	provided that enough people place their order with me.
	
	If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 48sx, I can obtain a
	price at around $350 each (GST & shipping extra). Price can be reduced,
	provided I can gather more orders.
	
	If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 95LX, 
	$710 each (GST & shipping extra). Again, more orders will result in 
	cheaper price.
	
	Other models are available too!
	
	Please e-mail me if you are interested, and I can arrange from there.
	I will e-mail back with details.
	
	p.s. I pay for the usage of this account, and I am not in any way affiliated 
	with U of T.
	
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	| Lawrence Chan                     stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca |
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why would anyone do this when they can get it faster and cheaper thru lots of places!  - better get a more reasonable deal

try EduCalc or Elek-Tek or even your local bookstore.  I got my hp48sx in
minutes for only $279- (Though if i felt like waiting it would have been
cheaper)

]\/[ ][ ]K ]E

Dan_Ciarniello@cc.sfu.ca (06/15/91)

> ?If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 48sx, I can obtain a
> ?price at around $350 each (GST & shipping extra). Price can be reduced,
> ?provided I can gather more orders.
> ?
> ?If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 95LX,
> ?$710 each (GST & shipping extra). Again, more orders will result in
> ?cheaper price.
> ?
> ?Other models are available too!
> ?
> ?Please e-mail me if you are interested, and I can arrange from there.
> ?I will e-mail back with details.
> ?
> ?p.s. I pay for the usage of this account, and I am not in any way
>-affiliated
> ?with U of T.
> ?
> ?--
> ?+---------------------------------------------------------------+
> ?| Lawrence Chan                     stnahc@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca |
> ?+---------------------------------------------------------------+
> ?
> why would anyone do this when they can get it faster and cheaper thru lots
>-of places!  - better get a more reasonable deal
> 
> try EduCalc or Elek-Tek or even your local bookstore.  I got my hp48sx in
> minutes for only $279- (Though if i felt like waiting it would have been
> cheaper)
> 
> ]\/[ ][ ]K ]E
 
Note that Lawrence is from Toronto which (unless grossly I'm mistaken) is 
somewhere in Eastern Canada :-)  The prices he quotes are in Canuck dollars 
which means that his prices are only slightly greater than those in the US.
Retail up her in Canada is about CAN$420.
 
Dan Ciarniello
Capilano College
North Vancouver, B. C.
Canada.
 

mvh@lysator.liu.se (Martin V. Howard) (06/16/91)

mbarr@lucy.umd.edu (Michael Barr) writes:

First we hear:
>	
>I can arrange a special deal to get new HP calculators for very low prices
>provided that enough people place their order with me.

Uhu.

>If I can collect 10 or more orders for HP 48sx, I can obtain a
>price at around $350 each (GST & shipping extra). Price can be reduced,
>provided I can gather more orders.

Then, having read that, we told that...

>try EduCalc or Elek-Tek or even your local bookstore.  I got my hp48sx in
>minutes for only $279- (Though if i felt like waiting it would have been
>cheaper)

Why pay $79 extra and have to wait?  Why use this guy's mail order service?
What's the point?  As far as I can see, you pay more and wait longer...

/mvH


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bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) (06/18/91)

In a posting of [16 Jun 91 09:22:01 GMT]
   mvh@lysator.liu.se (Martin V. Howard) writes:

 > Why pay $79 extra and have to wait?  Why use this guy's mail order
 > service?  What's the point?  As far as I can see, you pay more and
 > wait longer...

   This thread is an excellent example of what can happen if the
distribution gets screwed up... The guy offering low-priced HP
calculators posted from the University of Toronto, with the
distribution set to "ont," which I assume was supposed to be Ontario.

   Ladies and gentlemen, the prices in the original offer were in
Canadian dollars, for calculators with a Canadian warranty. Most
likely he will only accept orders from Ontario.

   Again, the distribution got screwed up. Someone in the U.S. picked
this up (assuming that "$" meant U.S. $), and explained that you could
order a calculator cheaply from a number of other sources, all in the
U.S. of course. This message makes it to Europe, where it's a common
notion that there is some sort of free trade agreement between the
U.S. and Canada. There isn't, although incidentally, a partial
agreement is under negotiation.

   I hope this will straighten matters out. The offer is not a joke or
a con scheme. Au contraire - it is both legitimate and honorable.

						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@ai.mit.edu

mikeh@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Michael Hoffos) (06/18/91)

In article <16531@life.ai.mit.edu> bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes:
>   Again, the distribution got screwed up. Someone in the U.S. picked
>this up (assuming that "$" meant U.S. $), and explained that you could
>order a calculator cheaply from a number of other sources, all in the
>U.S. of course. This message makes it to Europe, where it's a common
>notion that there is some sort of free trade agreement between the
>U.S. and Canada. There isn't, although incidentally, a partial
>agreement is under negotiation.
>
>   I hope this will straighten matters out. The offer is not a joke or
>a con scheme. Au contraire - it is both legitimate and honorable.
>
>						-- Jan Brittenson
>						   bson@ai.mit.edu


Ummm, I beg to differ with you, but there *is* a free-trade agreement
between the US and Canada.  Many items became duty-free when it went into
effect.  Of course, we still have exchange rates and import taxes to
fend with, making US mailorder mostly a losing proposition for most items.
But some stuff did get cheaper to bring up.  Certainly not calculators though.

(PS. Our last federal election was boringly fought over the issue of
     free-trade.  The supporters won, hence giving them the mandate to
     sign the agreement, which they did.  Now there are talks between the
     US, Canada, and Mexico for a huge free-trade zone.  If it is anything
     like the current free-trade agreement, few people will notice the
     difference.)

Mike Hoffos

mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Mueller) (06/18/91)

In article <16531@life.ai.mit.edu> bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes:
>This message makes it to Europe, where it's a common
>notion that there is some sort of free trade agreement between the
>U.S. and Canada. There isn't, although incidentally, a partial
>agreement is under negotiation.
>
Free trade has little to do with the exchange rate between the U.S.
and Canada.  I mean if we get a free trade agreement with Mexico, that
doesn't mean that 1 dollar = 1 peso.
>
>						-- Jan Brittenson
>						   bson@ai.mit.edu

Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)

bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) (06/19/91)

In a posting of [18 Jun 91 13:17:34 GMT]
   mueller@schaefer.UUCP (Carl Mueller) writes:

 > In article <16531@life.ai.mit.edu> bson@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Jan
 > Brittenson) writes:

 >> This message makes it to Europe, where it's a common
 >> notion that there is some sort of free trade agreement between the
 >> U.S. and Canada. There isn't, although incidentally, a partial
 >> agreement is under negotiation.

 > Free trade has little to do with the exchange rate between the U.S.
 > and Canada.  I mean if we get a free trade agreement with Mexico, that
 > doesn't mean that 1 dollar = 1 peso.

   What a brilliant conclusion. Did you come to it all by yourself?
Thank you, oh Great One, for enlightening my humble existence!

						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@ai.mit.edu

JMFITZGE@ccvm.sunysb.edu (John Fitzgerald) (06/19/91)

Please,

               ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!


                              Thanks.

herman@corpane.uucp (Harry Herman) (06/23/91)

In <1991Jun17.200016.21088@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> mikeh@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Michael Hoffos) writes:

>Ummm, I beg to differ with you, but there *is* a free-trade agreement
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>between the US and Canada.  Many items became duty-free when it went into
                                               ^^^^^^^^^
>effect.  Of course, we still have exchange rates and import taxes to
>fend with, making US mailorder mostly a losing proposition for most items.
>But some stuff did get cheaper to bring up.  Certainly not calculators though.

I thought free-trade meant duty-free, leaving just the currency exchange
rate.  My Webster's Dictionary states (in part):
	...international trade conducted without protective tariffs,
	customs duties, etc.

mikeh@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Michael Hoffos) (06/23/91)

In article <1991Jun22.202656.26173@corpane.uucp> herman@corpane.uucp (Harry Herman) writes:
>In <1991Jun17.200016.21088@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> mikeh@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Michael Hoffos) writes:
>
>>Ummm, I beg to differ with you, but there *is* a free-trade agreement
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>>between the US and Canada.  Many items became duty-free when it went into
>                                               ^^^^^^^^^
>>effect.  Of course, we still have exchange rates and import taxes to
>>fend with, making US mailorder mostly a losing proposition for most items.
>>But some stuff did get cheaper to bring up.  Certainly not calculators though.
>
>I thought free-trade meant duty-free, leaving just the currency exchange
>rate.  My Webster's Dictionary states (in part):
>	...international trade conducted without protective tariffs,
>	customs duties, etc.


Unfortunately, the free-trade agreement didn't require the removal of import
duties in all cases.  For example, when I bought my UNIX in the US (via
mail order), I got bagged $118 CAN for duty (it was assesed as a GUI), PLUS
I had to pay the GST here (another 7%).

The agreement mainly seems to be geared towards industry, to ease moving
raw materials back and forth.  (Even that has snags, re. the trouble between
the Pacific northwest states and British Columbia over softwood exports
from Canada to the States.)

I am not an expert in the details of the agreement (beyond a political
science course I took that covered it), but it is not in any way of the same
order of magnitude that will be occuring in Europe next year.  It is rather
dissapointing actually.  I was hoping that it truely would mean no more
import taxes/duties.

On the other hand, my computer was only assesed the GST. *sigh*

This is getting *quite* off-topic, so perhaps it should be moved elsewhere.

Mike Hoffos