[talk.politics.soviet] Usenet debate reported on the front page of the New York Times

zqli@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Zhenqin Li) (02/20/89)

It is interesting that the recent debate about computer link to USSR
on comp.misc has been reported on the front page of today (February 19)'s
"The New York Times". 

ijohnson@udenva.cair.du.edu (ILENE JOHNSON ) (02/21/89)

In article <7435@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> zqli@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Zhenqin Li) writes:
>
>It is interesting that the recent debate about computer link to USSR
>on comp.misc has been reported on the front page of today (February 19)'s
>"The New York Times". 


Would you please summarize this article or post it if it is short? 
Some of us don't get the New York Times out here in the boonies! :-)
Thanks. 


ijohnson@udenva
Ilene K. Johnson

zqli@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Zhenqin Li) (02/22/89)

In article <11260@udenva.cair.du.edu> ijohnson@udenva.UUCP (Ilene K. Johnson) writes:
>In article <7435@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> zqli@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Zhenqin Li) writes:
>>
>>It is interesting that the recent debate about computer link to USSR
>>on comp.misc has been reported on the front page of today (February 19)'s
>>"The New York Times". 
>
>
>Would you please summarize this article or post it if it is short? 
>Some of us don't get the New York Times out here in the boonies! :-)
>Thanks. 

The article is more than half page long. To save my time, instead of
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    The following items included in this morning's National Edition of
the New York Times caught my eye:

    >  the San Francisco/Moscow Teleport, a direct computer link
         between the US and USSR (already familiar to recipients of
         several electronic mail discussion lists, including Disarm-L)
         (sec. 1, pp. 1 & 20);

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I hope regular netters of comp.misc can help summarize the part about
Usenet debate.
 

-- 
Zhenqin Li  (607) 255-0556 (O)   |    "All hope carry annotations." 
Dept of Physics, Cornell Univ.   |          -Bei Dao                   

simon@hpstek.dec.com (Curiosier and curiosier...) (02/23/89)

From:	batcomputer!zqli 21-FEB-1989 21:48

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zqli@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Zhenqin Li) (02/24/89)

In article <8902231506.AA09584@decwrl.dec.com> simon@hpstek.dec.com (Curiosier and curiosier...) writes:
>>for those who do not subscribe to NYT, and can not find it in a 
>>library (!), I recommend subscribing to the JBH online mailing list.
> 
>>For non-BITNET people, send email with text:
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> 
>What name should be heer?  Just my First-Last (Leo Simon) or my address 
>(simon@barnum.dec.com) or the whole path from JBH (which I do not know)? 
>Is the service free or do the subscribers have to pay for it?
>The answers will be appreciated.

Your full name (Leo Simon). Your path via appropriate gateway will be
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    This morning's National Edition of the New York Times includes
items on:

    >  "The Changing Face of AIDS," which is gradually becoming more a
         disease of poor, black and Hispanic heterosexuals than of gay
         men (the first of a four-part series) (sec. 1, pp. 1 & 16);
    >  Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze's meeting with Deng
         Xiaoping in Shanghai Saturday (pp. 1 & 8, with photo of Deng
         and Shevardnadze, sec. 1, p. 1);
    >  Shevardnadze's visit to Islamabad today for consultations with
         Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto (sec. 1, pp. 1 & 8);
    >  the declining number of black American men in college (sec. 1,
         pp. 1 & 15);
    >  widespread and socially accepted male prostitution in a small
         Philippine town (sec. 1, p. 3);
    >  the dwindling interest in reunification with the mainland among
         the Taiwanese (sec. 1, p. 4);
    >  an appeal by Sri Lankan President Ranasinghe Premadasa for an
         end to the election campaign violence which has claimed
         hundreds of casualties in recent weeks (sec. 1, p. 5);
    >  the situation in Paraguay in the aftermath of Friday's coup
         d'etat against President Alfredo Stroessner (sec. 1, p. 6);
    >  the latest imprisonment of Czech playwright Vaclav Havel (sec.
         1, p. 10);
    >  the formation of a unified multiracial anti-apartheid political
         party in South Africa (sec. 1, p. 12);
    >  the making of Joel Schumacher's new film, "Cousins," starring
         Isabella Rossellini, Ted Danson and Sean Young (sec. 2, p.
         20);
    >  new home video releases, including Philip Kaufman's film of the
         Milan Kundera novel, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being"
         (sec. 2, p. 28);
    >  the public television series, "Degrassi Junior High" (sec. 2,
         pp. 29 & 35);
    >  "Yoko Ono: Objects, Films," an exhibit opening Wednesday and
          continuing through 16 April at the Whitney Museum of
          American Art (sec. 2, pp. 31 & 34);
    >  the "box office power" of I.M. Pei's East Building at the
          National Gallery of Art (sec. 2, pp. 33 & 36);
    >  Voice Navigator, a voice recognition driver device for the
          Apple Macintosh microcomputer (sec. 3, p. 10);
    >  the Soviets in Afghanistan, 1979-1989 (sec. 4, p. 1);
    >  the independence movement in Estonia (sec. 4, p. 5);
    >  quantum changes in East-West relations in Europe (sec. 4, p. 5;
         with photo of NATO and Warsaw Pact commanders reviewing maps
         together before a NATO maneuver);
    >  the twilight of the Botha era in South Africa (an editorial)
         (sec.  4, p.  24);
    >  the need for change in South Africa (an op-ed piece by Anthony
         Lewis) (sec. 4, p. 25);
    >  the recent Moscow conference on the Cuban missile crisis (an
         op-ed piece by conference participant Pierre Salinger) (sec.
         4, p. 25);
    >  the availability of the US Department of State's Bureau of
         Consular Affairs travel advisories by telephone at (202)
         647-5225 (sec. 5, p. 1);
    >  Bombay (sec. 5, p. 10);
    >  eight years of fighting in El Salvador (sec. 6 -- The NYT
         Magazine, pp. 18-21, 53-55, & 57);
    >  the past, present and future of American-Soviet relations (by
         George Kennan) (sec. 6 -- The NYT Magazine, pp. 32-33, 38,
         58, 64 & 66);
    >  sleeping pills (sec. 6 -- The NYT Magazine, pp. 39-40);
    >  a Georgian feast in Tbilisi (with recipes) (sec. 6 -- The NYT
         Magazine, pp.  41-42;  with photo of khachapuri, a Georgian
         cheese bread);
    >  the spring fashion shows in Paris, Milan, London & Rome (sec. 6
         -- The NYT Magazine, pp. 44-46, 48-52);
    >  fruit brandies from the Pacific Northwest, particularly Oregon
         (sec. 6 -- The NYT Magazine, p. 56);
    >  replicating the fragrances of live, rather than cut, flowers
         (sec. 6 -- The NYT Magazine, p. 78);
    >  Judy Shelton's new book, "The Coming Soviet Crash:  Gorbachev's
         Desperate Pursuit of Credit in Western Financial Markets"
         (New York:  The Free Press) (a review) (sec. 7 -- The NYT
         Book Review, pp. 9 & 11);
    >  Ronald Clark's new biography, "Lenin" (New York:  Harper & Row)
         (a review) (sec. 7 -- The NYT Book Review, p. 14);
    >  "The Man Who Saved the Library:  An Ode to Vartan Gregorian"
         (departing president of the New York Public Library, who is
         assuming the presidency of Brown University) (sec. 7 -- The
         NYT Book Review, p. 15);
    >  Richard Fenno Jr.'s new book, "The Making of a Senator:  Dan
         Quayle" (Washington:  CQ Press) (a review by National Public
         Radio correspondent Linda Wertheimer, who finds "Mr. Fenno's
         account of Dan Quayle's growth ... optimistic") (sec. 7 --
         The NYT Book Review, p.  19);
    >  Buffie Johnson's new book, "Lady of the Beasts:  Ancient Images
         of the Goddess and Her Sacred Animals" (San Francisco:
         Harper & Row) (sec. 7 -- The NYT Book Review, p. 22);  &
    >  Ronald Bayer's new book, "Private Acts, Social Consequences:
         AIDS and the Politics of Public Health" (New York:  The Free
         Press) (sec. 7 -- The NYT Book Review, p. 23).


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jackson@adobe.COM (Curtis Jackson) (02/24/89)

In article <8902231506.AA09584@decwrl.dec.com> simon@hpstek.dec.com (Curiosier and curiosier...) writes:
}>For non-BITNET people, send email with text:
}>SUB ONLINE-L your name
}	      ^^^^^^^^^
}>to: listserv@irishvm.bitnet
} 
}What name should be heer?  Just my First-Last (Leo Simon) or my address 
}(simon@barnum.dec.com) or the whole path from JBH (which I do not know)? 
}Is the service free or do the subscribers have to pay for it?
}The answers will be appreciated.

Sure.  I assumed the best and put my name (Curtis Jackson) in the
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address, and another with my full path (or a good guess at it).

I got mail back -- it like my name and subscribed me, and bitched
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