[comp.periphs.printers] QMS ColorScript 100 printer

lar@pc.usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.) (03/26/91)

A member of our university community is considering the purchase of a
QMS ColorScript 100 printer, so I'd like to ask for some opinions from
those of you who have used one of these.  How is the print quality,
and the performance in general?  Have you had any problems with it?
Would you recommend this printer to a friend (that you wanted to keep
:-)?

If anyone can suggest an alternative to the QMS in the same price
range, I'd like to hear about this also.

Thanks in advance.

Lane
lar@usl.edu

rodney@solar.card.inpu.oz.au (Rodney Campbell) (03/26/91)

lar@pc.usl.edu (Robert, Lane A.) writes:

>A member of our university community is considering the purchase of a
>QMS ColorScript 100 printer, so I'd like to ask for some opinions from
>those of you who have used one of these.  How is the print quality,
>and the performance in general?  Have you had any problems with it?
>Would you recommend this printer to a friend (that you wanted to keep
>:-)?

>If anyone can suggest an alternative to the QMS in the same price
>range, I'd like to hear about this also.

We have a QMS ColorScript 100 here at our site though we have not really
used it for any volume production yet. The output is very good except
colours which you see on the screen do not necessarily appear as such on
the output page. We have had some spotting problems when we use overhead
transparency plastic. The only other thing which disturbs me with the
machine is that everytime we turn the machine on we get a test page. This
is supposed to be an option which you can select but we have tried to set
this up but the machine defaults to the original condition everytime the
power is turned off, most convenient....
The output is nice and the cost fairly low as far as I can tell.
Tektronics also have a machine called Phaser something or rather. The
output from this machine is similar though I think possible a little
better but the machine is bigger and I don't know how much more expensive.
       Hope that this helps...
		      					Rodney...
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selig@wizard.msfc.nasa.gov (Bill Selig - SysAdmin) (03/29/91)

rodney@solar.card.inpu.oz.au (Rodney Campbell) writes:

>transparency plastic. The only other thing which disturbs me with the
>machine is that everytime we turn the machine on we get a test page. This
>is supposed to be an option which you can select but we have tried to set
>this up but the machine defaults to the original condition everytime the
>power is turned off, most convenient....

We also have said printer and also saw that problem. I believe that the
Postscript program that you are supposed to send to turn off the startup
page is listed incorrectly in the manual.

On p.8-6 of the ColorScript manual, where they program shows "false
dostartpage" it should read "false setdostartpage". Try that.

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dan@s3sol.scubed (Dan Peterka) (03/30/91)

   rodney@solar.card.inpu.oz.au (Rodney Campbell) writes:

   >transparency plastic. The only other thing which disturbs me with the
   >machine is that everytime we turn the machine on we get a test page. This
   >is supposed to be an option which you can select but we have tried to set
   >this up but the machine defaults to the original condition everytime the
   >power is turned off, most convenient....
			:
			.
   On p.8-6 of the ColorScript manual, where they program shows "false
   dostartpage" it should read "false setdostartpage". Try that.

We have two of these printers at are our facility. Regarding the
disabling of startup pages, the above is correct; and it survives
power cycles.

Our site uses both UNIX machines and Macintoshes and we have each
printer set up to accept traffic from both. The UNIX machines send
data through a Fastpath unto LocalTalk using the CAP papif routines.

We have numerous problems with both of our printers hanging up and
going out to lunch. QMS has replaced motherboards in both, to no
avail. We don't know what is causing the problem, but it seems to be
related to times when the printer is accepting jobs from both UNIX and
Mac sources. They'll go all day if only Mac users use them, or if only
UNIX users use them, but when job interleaving happens, the printers
frequently go catatonic and require power cycling. This is an
intermittent problem, not every transition between UNIX and Mac causes
it to happen.

All of our other Black and White printers, of various makes and
manufacturers, are used in a similar fashion and we have never had
these problems. So either it is related to complications of Color
Postscript implementations, or it's a problem with the QMS.

We have also had problems with the wax in dark areas on transparencies
melting and blistering while sitting on overhead projectors. This
charactaristic seems to be worse on output from one of our printers
and not as bad from the other. On the worst of the two, users were
reporting that they could have the slide on the projector for only 10
seconds or so before the black portions started blistering. They have
resorted to inserting transparencies in sleeves which buys them a
little extra projection time.

The wax deposition on both paper and transparency is very easy to
scratch with a stray fingernail or other sharp object. We recently
purchased a Seiko ColorPoint which deposits the wax on the page much
better. It is still scratchable, but you have to work at it. Its only
drawback is that switching between transparency and paper is a pain.

I'm still looking for the ideal color PS printer. For those of you who
care about such things, here is my wishlist:

	Reliability
	Ease of transition between paper and transparency
		Most printers use cut sheet feeds which make it easy
		to insert transparency sheets for the onsey, twosey
		type jobs - Seiko does not.
		Ideally, I would like to see a dual tray/roll printer
		that stocked both transpareny and paper media -
		selectable through Postscript.
	Full page printing 
		Most printers, Seiko excluded, have large margins for
		page resgistration. Either that, or they make you use
		oversize paper and ink sheets to get a full page and
		you have to cut it yourself.
	Faster PS Interpretor
		Some bitmap images we generate on our Silicon
		Graphics take over an hour to print per page on the
		QMS - the Seiko is much faster at 20 minutes/page.
	Redefinable Device Type
		Most Appletalk controllors allow the device type to be
		changed	from LaserWriter, to something else. This is 
		useful in several ways to control access to the
		printers. The Seiko does not allow us to change it's
		device type.
	Smoother Dithering
		Many of the non-Adobe printers have nicer dithering
		algorithms for rendering gradual color gradations
		than the Adobe printers. Seiko is good at this, but we
		haven't had it long enough to find out if there are
		things it can't do.


These printers are still too expensive to plop on everyone's desk.
Since they are shared devices, lots of attention needs to be paid to
operations in these kinds of environments. Media swapping is a
particular problem because people make many more color transparencies
than B&W.

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hue@island.COM (Pond Scum) (03/30/91)

In article <1991Mar26.040621.3436@solar.card.inpu.oz.au> rodney@solar.card.inpu.oz.au (Rodney Campbell) writes:
>transparency plastic. The only other thing which disturbs me with the
>machine is that everytime we turn the machine on we get a test page. This
>is supposed to be an option which you can select but we have tried to set
>this up but the machine defaults to the original condition everytime the
>power is turned off, most convenient....

[294]coney:print: lwtalk /dev/ttya	<< "executive" automatically sent >>
PostScript(r) Version 50.5
Copyright (c) 1984, '85, '86, '87, '88 Adobe Systems Incorporated.
Typefaces Copyright (c) 1981 Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries.
All Rights Reserved.
PS>serverdict begin 0 exitserver
%%[ exitserver: permanent state may be changed ]%%
PostScript(r) Version 50.5
Copyright (c) 1984, '85, '86, '87, '88 Adobe Systems Incorporated.
Typefaces Copyright (c) 1981 Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries.
All Rights Reserved.
PS>statusdict begin			<< I typed "executive" here >>
PS>dostartpage pstack pop
true 
PS>false setdostartpage
PS>quit
Good-bye
[295]coney:print: 

You can probably just stick the code in a file and send it:

serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin false setdostartpage

-Jonathan			hue@island.COM