dap1@ihlpf.UUCP (07/16/83)
#N:ihlpf:23200006: 0:4824 ihlpf!dap1 Jul 16 0: 8:00 1983 We just got an Apple Lisa last Friday and I thought I would put my reaction up for any others who might be thinking of buying. The first thing that strikes me is that it is SLOW. I understand they are running their 68000 at 5Mhz. to keep the video happy, but for whatever reason, it takes forever (relative to what one would expect) to bring up an application. If, in addition, you try to print out something while you work, this is slowed down again by maybe a third. This seems like pretty bad degradation to multiplex to what amounts to a NEC printer. Then again, once you've got an application up and running, it seems to buzz along pretty well. The mouse really helps in this respect. After a little practice, the mouse feels very good and the ability to get things done in a hurry increases dramatically. Another complaint is flexibility. Over and above the fact that you can't program it, the Lisa has several limitations built into it. For instance, when it creates a pie chart, it always arranges the sections from largest to smallest rather than the way they are listed. As long as you want to do it Lisa's way, everything's great, but don't expect to do anything to far off the beaten path. I'll make a quick rundown of the tools available: LisaDraw: I simultaneously reserve the biggest compliments and the biggest disappointments for LisaDraw. It is very easy to learn and can produce extremely professional looking results in minutes. The interface with LisaDraw is well thought out and within its limitations, it does a beautiful job. Unfortunately, they have left out several important features for no good reason that I can see, and included some very questionable features. For instance, no spline curves. I don't understand this. The easiest way in the world to simulate a nice smooth curve is a spline curve and they're not that hard to program. Instead, they included a facility to draw sections of ellipses in very restricted sections (namely quarters of ellipses). I have used this feature exactly once and found it extremely awkward. Another omission is the ability to rotate. Expansions and translations are handled well, but there is no way to handle general rotations. Still another is the inability to handle text at an angle, even at ninety degree intervals. This means that the Y axis on their graphs is labelled above the axis rather than along the side where it would make more sense. Text cannot be compressed either. This means that when compressing a picture, the text often comes out looking out of place. Well, maybe this is expecting a bit much, but our HP2627 does it. Handy for writing in tight places. Finally, the output on the printer does not always match the screen. I have seen a couple of cases where some text wiped out lines on the printer but they looked fine on the screen. This, in spite of the fact that the printer is claimed to be the same resolution as the screen. LisaCalc: I haven't used this one a lot, but it seems to be a fairly nice spreadsheet and the mouse is really a nice interface for this particular application. Instead of having to type in a cell number or move the cursor to the proper cell you just select that cell (or range of cells) with the mouse. LisaWrite: I think you really have to stretch your imagination to call this a word processor. You can justify text and get pages numbered automatically and that's about all that seperates this from a decent editor. Then you need to get it printed out on that God-awfully slow printer (in graphics mode for "final copy"). It'll never replace Nroff (although I wish something would). LisaGraph: This has the same advantages that the Lisa enjoys overall, namely simplicity and user interface. It also suffers from the lack of flexibility that is present in other places. To get a graph, simply type in your numbers and observe the graph over on the right. This is certainly simple enough, but if you want the sections of your pie chart in a particular order, forget it. If you want different shades for the bar chart or pie chart, or different symbols for the scatter and line chart,forget it. If you want anything besides a bar, line, scatter or pie chart, forget it. Nonetheless, if you are able to work within these constraints, the Lisa certainly makes life easy. LisaProject: This is a really neat program which allows you to set up a schedule diagram in about a tenth the time it would take to set it up by hand and then displays schedules both by resource and by task. Again, if you stay within the limits, a VERY nice tool. Well, that's about it. If anybody has any specific questions, they can feel free to send them to me. Darrell Plank BTL-IH