[net.micro] JRT Pascal

jmr1 (11/16/82)

I've received a few responses regarding this pascal offer. So far only
one of these have actually received their order.
I called in regards to my order and was told that they were about two
weeks behind in filling their orders. I'm currently out of town so I really
don't know if my order has been received.
  I am willing to accumulate all persons opinions of this package and
put out a summary. You may send your opinions to ll1!jmr1.

			John Reese

Pugh.ES@Parc-Maxc@sri-unix (11/19/82)

For a review of JRT PASCAL, see the latest issue of Dr. Dobbs' Journal.

/Eric

Mead@Usc-Eclb@sri-unix (11/21/82)

From: Dick <Mead@Usc-Eclb>
When I saw their first ad for a 29.95 Pascal, I called in my order.
Seems this was earlier this year. I believe it did take them at 
least 4 weeks to finally get it to me.
Just the other day I received a 'newsletter' from JRT, stating
they have an updated version, 2.21 or whatever, for $10, and
expect to release a version 3 soon (still 29.95), no upgrade
by 2.x owners mentioned. I have not used the JRT, as I have, for
now, given up on Pascal, after treading through some of the
literature on learning it, but they still seem to be around and
filling orders, no matter how slowly it happens.
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wolfordj (11/22/82)

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pur-ee!wolfordj    Nov 15 16:55:00 1982

I don't know if my last message made got through.  I have found out 
some problems with the JRT pascal.  1 so far is that you must have 
CP/M 2.2 to make it run.  A friend has CP/M 1.4 and we could not get it
to run until we redid his CP/M and corresponding BIO.




				Jeff Wolford
				pur-ee!wolfordj

jmr1 (11/23/82)

Well I've received some mail regarding the Pascal offered by JRT for
$29.95 and I've also noticed that there have been some news articles
in 'net.micro' pertaining to this offer.
  The general consensus seems to indicate that there is a 4 to 6 week
wait for the software and a 1 to 4 week wait for the bill...
  I have also read and heard from others that it requires version 2.2
CP/M to run properly. Many people mentioned recent articles in some of
more popular computing magazines...I've read only one article from I
think it was Microcomputing (educated guess..I've read so many). The
general opinion of that article was for $29.95 it was a good deal, but
for $150 it would be a terrible deal. 
  I just read a net.news article stating that there is an article in the
latest version of 'Doc. Dobbs Jour.'...if that person who wrote that
could give a brief synopsis I'm sure those of us interested would greatly
appreciate it.
  As of today, I have not yet received my order so I'm still waiting to
find out if I've been burned.

			John Reese
			ll1!jmr1
PS: I know my spelling and grammar is terrible, I'm really trying but I'm
begging to think I'm a hopeless case!
 

jim@Rand-Unix@sri-unix (11/30/82)

Although I didn't send the original reference to the Dr. Dobbs article
on JRT PASCAL, I'll give the bottom, since  I haven't seen it here yet.

The author of the review applauded JRT's idea of reducing prices on
useful software drastically, and wished that he could recommend the
product.  The last paragraph had the following flavor:  it was really
a great idea for JRT to drop the price drastically, but it's still no
bargain even at $29.95.

I was going to order it, but decided not to on the basis of the review.

		Jim Gillogly

jmr (12/06/82)

   This is a continuing saga of the JRT Pascal...

   Well I still have yet to receive my ordered copy of the JRT pascal,
although I've paid for it....I called again today and they said they
have not sent out copies for the past two weeks because they have a new
version 2.2....I wonder what bugs this new version is supposed to correct?
  At this rate I'll at least always have an up-to date version...but it
will be located some where in their office!
   Anyone have any ideas what the new version contains????

				John Reese
				ll1!jmr

9484cbs@hou2b.UUCP (07/19/83)

Several people I know or have heard of, myself included,
have had major problems receiving our ordered copies of JRT Pascal 
(mainly in the soft sectored formats).  I have been waiting several
months and others have been waiting longer (up to 7 months).
In all cases, our checks were cashed within a couple of weeks and 
JRT has been collecting interest on our money since then.

To all you other people in the same boat, do not dispair.  There 
is a way to get the product (or a refund, which may be a good
idea).  JRT Pascal is a real product and I have heard several
people claim that it is worth the $30.  

Two members of a computer user group I belong to tried this and got
their JRT Pascal shipped within one week.  I am trying it now.
To get your Pascal, write the company a cordial letter.  In it,
say that if you do not receive your Pascal within 10 working
days that you will inform the California State Attorney General
and the US Postal Service of your predicement.  This should work.
If it dosen't then write to these two groups.  Write to the Better
Business Bureau, too.  JRT has cancelled all their magazine ads,
so writing to magazines may not help.

Good luck.

Ken Lee