terranova@vms3.macc.wisc.edu (Macc) (04/10/88)
Greetings,
Has anyone else noticed the advertisement for LSC 3.0 (yes, 3.0)?
Pick up your latest copy of MacTutor and just turn it over to the
back cover. Check out the box in the lower left corner. In bold
print even (if I remember correctly - I don't have it in front of me).
There is a small mention of a symbollic debugger. Has anyone else
seen this? Is it here finally? Was I dreaming ( |-) ? Has anyone
had a chance to use it yet?
Just my mindless ramblings....
John
"Honesty is such a lonely word; everyone is so untrue.
Honesty is hardly ever heard and mostly what I need from you."
--Billy Joel "Honesty"jas@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU (Jeffrey A. Sullivan) (04/11/88)
In article <128@dogie.edu>, terranova@vms3.macc.wisc.edu (Macc) writes: > > Greetings, > Has anyone else noticed the advertisement for LSC 3.0 (yes, 3.0)? > Pick up your latest copy of MacTutor and just turn it over to the > back cover. Check out the box in the lower left corner. In bold > print even (if I remember correctly - I don't have it in front of me). > There is a small mention of a symbollic debugger. Has anyone else > seen this? Is it here finally? Was I dreaming ( |-) ? Has anyone > had a chance to use it yet? Yes, you saw right, but that ad's been out for 2-3 months, so it doesn't mean didly-squat. I bought LSC about a month ago figuring "How long could it be? Well, I've heard less about it in recent weeks than right when I bought it. Then, on the net there was a bit of a furor over Think's upgrade policy (free 3.0 to people who bought LSC after some time in February). That's why I bought it instead of waiting for 3.0, but Jeez, how long must we wait, Oh Think? I also hope that the upgrade includes a new set of docs. I got the 2.11 docs with a bunch of papers stapled together for the 2.13 upgrade stuffed in. If I need to look for something, I've got to flip thru the manual, then shuffle through the pages to find if the manual is overridden. If I get another sheaf of papers, I'll scream. Kind of like looking through IM 1, 4, and 5 to find the info I need! Anyway, I hear that Think is on the net, but they are obviously ignoring these peevish calls of "When?" Perhaps they are very far from releasing LSC 3.0, and just announced it to boost sales. This doesn't make a lot of sense, since I don't know of any competitors that just released a new version that they'd be trying to steal the thunder from, but ya never know. A symbolic debugger would be nice for me, since I own a Mac II, and the MacsBug supplied with my LSC inly causes my II to crash at boot=up (obviously not the current version), so I am debugger-less. -- .......................................................................... Jeffrey Sullivan | University of Pittsburgh jas@cadre.dsl.pittsburgh.edu | Intelligent Systems Studies Program jasper@PittVMS.BITNET, jasst3@cisunx.UUCP | Graduate Student
brian@natinst.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) (04/11/88)
In article <128@dogie.edu>, terranova@vms3.macc.wisc.edu (Macc) writes: > Has anyone else noticed the advertisement for LSC 3.0 (yes, 3.0)? > There is a small mention of a symbollic debugger. Has anyone else > seen this? Is it here finally? Was I dreaming ( |-) ? Has anyone > had a chance to use it yet? You're not dreaming; the ad says it exists. Unfortunately, the ad was premature, for which they apologize. A call to Think revealed this information. I guess we all have to sit and wait patiently, like we've been doing for some time now. Brian H. Powell National Instruments Corp. brian@natinst.uucp 12109 Technology Blvd. ut-sally!im4u!natinst!brian Austin, Texas 78727-6204 (512) 250-9119 x832 or if that doesn't work, you can use brian@sally.utexas.edu. Nothing I said was believed by my employer.
tedj@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Ted Johnson) (04/11/88)
>I also hope that the upgrade includes a new set of docs. I got the >2.11 docs with a bunch of papers stapled together for the 2.13 upgrade >stuffed in. If I need to look for something, I've got to flip thru >the manual, then shuffle through the pages to find if the manual is >overridden. If I get another sheaf of papers, I'll scream. Kind of I agree, lets have a whole new manual! I got the 1.0 manual with the 2.01 docs (and no docs since...). -Ted Johnson HP Design Technology Center
cole@sas.UUCP (Tom Cole) (04/12/88)
In reference to the ramblings about LSC 3.0, I called Think, er, Symantec, and was told that it was an "eggregious error" that the ad was run prematurely, and that it was still several weeks away. The nice lady on the phone assured me that as a registered user I would see a notice in my mailbox long before it made it to advertising like MacTutor. I assume this is because they don't know when it will be ready, and lead times on ads can be anywhere from 6-12 weeks. Of course, the ad's run two consecutive issues so they may just be hedging their bets... :-)
jwhitnel@csi.UUCP (Jerry Whitnell) (04/12/88)
In article <1118@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> jas@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU (Jeffrey A. Sullivan) writes: |Yes, you saw right, but that ad's been out for 2-3 months, so it doesn't |mean didly-squat. As mentioned elsewhere the ad was a mistake and was out only one month. |I bought LSC about a month ago figuring "How long |could it be? Well, I've heard less about it in recent weeks than |right when I bought it. Then, on the net there was a bit of a furor |over Think's upgrade policy (free 3.0 to people who bought LSC after |some time in February). That's why I bought it instead of waiting for |3.0, but Jeez, how long must we wait, Oh Think? 3.0 has no offical date for availabilty. People I've talked suggested that it just went into beta and should be avilable before Boston MacWorld. But those are rumors, so don't hold me or Think to them. |Anyway, I hear that Think is on the net, but they are obviously |ignoring these peevish calls of "When?" Perhaps they are very far |from releasing LSC 3.0, and just announced it to boost sales. This |doesn't make a lot of sense, since I don't know of any competitors |that just released a new version that they'd be trying to steal the |thunder from, but ya never know. I personally think they annouced it to let us know what we could expect from them in the distant future (original annoucment was last Novemember). It's been awhile since the last update. The reason they don't say when can be answered in one word: "FullWrite." | |A symbolic debugger would be nice for me, since I own a Mac II, and |the MacsBug supplied with my LSC inly causes my II to crash at boot=up |(obviously not the current version), so I am debugger-less. Run, don't walk, to your nearest computer store and order a copy of TMON. Lists at a $150, you can find it mail-order for much cheaper (try ComputerWare). Make sure you get versions 2.8 or 2.8.1 (the latest). |Jeffrey Sullivan | University of Pittsburgh Jerry Whitnell Been through Hell? Communication Solutions, Inc. What did you bring back for me? - A. Brilliant
singer@endor.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel) (04/13/88)
In article <1118@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> jas@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU (Jeffrey A. Sullivan) writes: >I also hope that the upgrade includes a new set of docs. I got the >2.11 docs with a bunch of papers stapled together for the 2.13 upgrade As far as I know there will be a new manual. >Anyway, I hear that Think is on the net, but they are obviously >ignoring these peevish calls of "When?" Perhaps they are very far Not at all. Very recently (a few articles ago) in fact) I posted on the state of affairs with LightspeedC 3.0. The long and short of it is, neither I, nor anyone else, will publish a release date for LightspeedC. >A symbolic debugger would be nice for me, since I own a Mac II, and >the MacsBug supplied with my LSC inly causes my II to crash at boot=up >(obviously not the current version), so I am debugger-less. > The version 2.15 package should have the current MacsBug in it. If it doesn't then contact Customer Support and they will send you the current version. -Rich (I don't know what this .signature says, but here goes...)
rs4u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Siegel) (04/15/88)
> *Excerpts from: 13-Apr-88 Re: LSC >> 3.0 << Rich Siegel@endor.harvar (1065)* > Not at all. Very recently (a few articles ago) in fact) I posted > on the state of affairs with LightspeedC 3.0. The long and short of it is, > neither I, nor anyone else, will publish a release date for LightspeedC. *THAT* was stupid, allow me to rephrase that. In fact, neither I, nor anyone else, will publish a release date for LightspeedC until it is ready; we do have an anticipated release date, but for obvious reasons we will not announce that date. --Rich