[net.micro] C Shell

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (07/11/83)

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I think you are forgetting a very important feature of the C Shell:
JOB CONTROL.  I detest using any computer that doesn't provide
multi-forking capability.  The Bourne Shell does not provide job
control!


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                                Doug Alan
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pdl@root44.UUCP (Dave Lukes) (07/18/83)

Yawn, yawn: Job control is another redundant feature....

**** FLAME ON ****:

Job control is a way of handling multiple processes in multiple `contexts'
(i.e. foreground, background, etc.). What's wrong with a multi-window
terminal for doing exactly the same thing (i.e. leaving things running
in one window, the switching to another one to do something else etc. etc. etc.)
Again, job control is a BAD way to do the job (just like aliases and history...).
Also, my other objection to job control is that it has massive and painful
hooks into the kernel, all to implement a specific end user feature.
This seems wrong to me. (What happened to generality, and keeping the kernel
small ?)

**** FLAME OFF ****.

			Dave Lukes, Fid. Def.
			(...!vax135!ukc!root44!pdl)

berry@zinfandel.UUCP (07/28/83)

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zinfandel!berry    Jul 26 10:39:00 1983

Picky picky!  So job control, aliases and history don't belong in the
shell, huh?  Well they have one VERY big advantage over all the nifty whizzo
ideas you've popped off with.

They WORK.
Now.

Not some pie in the sky "If you had a multiple window 4kx4k color bitmapped
intelligent terminal with a 12 button mouse and all that nice software
and hardware you wouldn't need this" garbage.

You can go and get it RIGHT NOW and it works fine.  Sure it's got a few
warts, what doesn't?  At least it's a <rot 13> better than CICS!!!

Berry Kercheval		Zehntel Inc.	(decvax!sytek!zehntel!zinfandel!berry)
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