[net.micro] Some modems dont work on some lines

k9un@iwsl7.UUCP (07/28/83)

I have a Rixon Sangamo 1200b modem that worked fine 'til I moved to a new
office here at the labs. On my new data line, I can dial my phone, get
an answer and carrieer, but the modem refuses to recognize it (all the
usual signals like TR.. are ok). The modem works fine on other lines.
The line "seems" to function fine audibly. I also tried a DEC DFO3 modem
and it also doesn't work. Finally, I tried a Penril DCD modem and what da ya
know? It works! 
Any suggestions? Our local people who are in charge of these lines have no
t been very responsive. I seem to remeb=mber having a similar problem at
home on my apple with the Rixon modem.

						Wes Ague

w8sdz@brl@sri-unix.UUCP (07/29/83)

From:      Keith Petersen <w8sdz@brl>

Make sure that only "tip" and "ring" are connected at the modular plug.
(that's usually red and green wires).  If the other two (usually unused)
black and yellow wires are connected, some modems will refuse to
operate.  Because of this, some manufacturers of modems are suppling a
modular "Y" connector that only supports tip and ring connections to the
modem.  In a commercial multi-line telephone the yellow and black wires
are used for what's called the "A Lead", which is a circuit that
connects to auxilary hook-switch contacts in your telephone.  This
circuit is used to cancel the "Hold" relay when you pick up the phone.
--Keith

rb@houxn.UUCP (R.BOTWIN) (07/29/83)

Most likely problem is polarity!

Try reversing the tip and ring wires (usually red/green pair)...

All other things being equal that seems to be the problem...

Some things are polarity sensitive (like older touchtone units).

	Rob Botwin
	ABI/BTL .....houxn!rb

BILLW%sri-kl@sri-unix.UUCP (07/29/83)

Also, when you have a second line installed many places, they just
use the  "unused" yellow and black wires for the second line.  The
normal phone signals present on the remaining two wire are definately
capable of preventing a modem from working properly, as I have determined
on two seperate occasions with Vadic triple modems...

BillW