deragon@acf8.UUCP (John Paul Deragon) (04/07/88)
I was using ResEdit last night (latest version, forgot #) and
was fooling around with some key combinations. What exactly happens when
you hold down shift-option-command and select 'about ResEdit' from the
menu. I get a standard dialog box with the Joker, in the mac and the big
"ON" with an arrow pointing up. If I do it again I get 'OFF'. What
exactly does it do?
Thanks in adavance.
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------------------------------------------------------- ephraim@think.COM (ephraim vishniac) (04/07/88)
In article <22780003@acf8.UUCP> deragon@acf8.UUCP (John Paul Deragon) writes: >I was using ResEdit last night (latest version, forgot #) and >was fooling around with some key combinations. What exactly happens when >you hold down shift-option-command and select 'about ResEdit' from the >menu. I get a standard dialog box with the Joker, in the mac and the big >"ON" with an arrow pointing up. If I do it again I get 'OFF'. What >exactly does it do? You've discovered "pig mode." In some versions of ResEdit, the alerts say "Flipping pig mode ON" and "Flipping pig mode off." What's pig mode? A debugging tool for ResEdit. When on, it forces resource purging and memory compaction very frequently. Needless to say, this constant purging of resources makes ResEdit a real pig. Ephraim Vishniac ephraim@think.com Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142-1214 On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?"
tedj@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Ted Johnson) (08/14/88)
Does anyone know what the proper way is for resizing a window in a ResEdit DLOG resource? Sometimes holding down pretzel and shift and dragging with the mouse works, sometimes it doesn't. :-( When I resize the DITL that the DLOG window corresponds to, it always goes back to it's former size, so I *think* that you're supposed to resize it from the DLOG. ANY CLUES ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! BTW, thanks to all who helped me with the hierarchical menus. I'm sending a short LSC program (and source) to comp.binaries.mac so everyone who wants to see how it is done won't have to struggle as much as I did. -Ted
beard@ux1.lbl.gov (Patrick C Beard) (08/18/88)
In article <730057@hpcilzb.HP.COM> tedj@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Ted Johnson) writes: > >Does anyone know what the proper way is for resizing a window in >a ResEdit DLOG resource? Sometimes holding down pretzel and shift >and dragging with the mouse works, sometimes it doesn't. :-( > When you bring up the miniature version of the dialog, you can click in the lower left corner of it to resize the window, or, under the DLOG menu, you can view the DLOG as text and specify the exact rectangle. >When I resize the DITL that the DLOG window corresponds to, >it always goes back to it's former size, so I *think* that you're >supposed to resize it from the DLOG. > True. The DLOG causes the DITL resource to be resized, but not vice versa. I hope this helps. Patrick Beard Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory beard@ux1.lbl.gov
laba-5ai@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Glenn McElhoe) (08/30/88)
In article <730057@hpcilzb.HP.COM> tedj@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Ted Johnson) writes: >Does anyone know what the proper way is for resizing a window in >a ResEdit DLOG resource? Sometimes holding down pretzel and shift >and dragging with the mouse works, sometimes it doesn't. :-( >When you bring up the miniature version of the dialog, you can click >in the lower left corner of it to resize the window, or, under the DLOG >menu, you can view the DLOG as text and specify the exact rectangle. The most dependable way that I have found to resize my DLOGs is to estimate how much more room I need, changing to text representation (DLOG menu), and changing the numbers there. To double check, re-open the DITL and choose the Use owner window option. By the way, does anyone know of something better than ResEdit, or a newer version then 1.1? I mean, ResEdit is a much better way than RMaker to generate and alter resources, but it's got soooo many problems. (Multi-Finder incom- patibility for one) Maybe with the Mac II, the people at apple could put together a new version with a color icon and clut picker. Just some ideas, because I can't believe everyone gets along with a program as unreliable as ResEdit. -- Glenn McElhoe mcelhoe@zen.berkeley.edu "This message has been brought to you by the number 5 and the letter F"
shane@chianti.cc.umich.edu (Shane Looker) (08/30/88)
In article <13685@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> laba-5ai@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Glenn McElhoe) writes: > >By the way, does anyone know of something better than ResEdit, or a newer >version then 1.1? I mean, ResEdit is a much better way than RMaker to generate >and alter resources, but it's got soooo many problems. (Multi-Finder incom- >patibility for one) Maybe with the Mac II, the people at apple could put >together a new version with a color icon and clut picker. > >Just some ideas, because I can't believe everyone gets along with a program as >unreliable as ResEdit. > >-- >Glenn McElhoe You should try the ResEdit 1.2 version. (Check Sumex.) I agree that ResEdit can be very clunky to use for many things. That's why there will soon be something much nicer to use for all those messy resouce problems. (Well, not all, but many.) (Watch this keyboard for an exciting announcement in the very near future.) Shane Looker Looker@um.cc.umich.edu
jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (08/30/88)
The version of ResEdit that you should be using is ResEdit 1.2B2. It is available from APDA, the various electronic distribution services - not including SUMEX. They reason that ResEdit is not available from SUMEX or posted to USENET is a legal one, doing with how the copyright law says you have to protect certian classes of software. Jordan Mattson UUCP: jordan@apple.apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. CSNET: jordan@apple.CSNET Tools & Languages Product Management 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-4601 "Joy is the serious business of heaven." C.S. Lewis
dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen) (08/30/88)
In article <13685@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> laba-5ai@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Glenn McElhoe) writes: >By the way, does anyone know of something better than ResEdit, or a newer >version then 1.1? I mean, ResEdit is a much better way than RMaker to generate >and alter resources, but it's got soooo many problems. (Multi-Finder incom- >patibility for one) Maybe with the Mac II, the people at apple could put >together a new version with a color icon and clut picker. ResEdit 1.1 was released just before MultiFinder, and it DOES have problems under MF. However, ResEdit 1.2 works pretty well with MF. As to its availability... check APDA. Dan Allen Apple Computer
jmh@utacs.UTA.FI (Matti Heimonen) (08/30/88)
I have had no problems in resizing and moving the DLOG box in ResEdit. To resize it: drag the miniature of DLOG box near the right bottom corner. To move it: drag it any on other place. I am currently using version 1.2d1 and I am quite happy with it (so far!). There is anyway one thing that annoys me. I *want* to define my DLOGs as resources but I would also like to have them well fitted to screens of varying sizes, e.g. in the middle or the right bottom corner of the screen. How can I get both of these?? Juha-Matti Heimonen jmh@utacs.UUCP
marc@rna.UUCP (Marc Johnson) (08/31/88)
In article <16308@apple.Apple.COM> dan@apple.com.UUCP (Dan Allen) writes:
+
+ResEdit 1.1 was released just before MultiFinder, and it DOES have
+problems under MF. However, ResEdit 1.2 works pretty well with MF. As
+to its availability... check APDA.
+
What is APDA? And how do I get to it? Is there a phone #?
Thanx
Marc Johnson
Rockefeller Univ.jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (09/01/88)
Dear Marc - APDA is the Apple Programmers and Developers Association. It is a division of the A.P.P.L.E Coop which, with Apple's blessing, has become the source for developer products from Apple. The address for the APDA is the following: Apple Programmers and Developers Association 290 SW 43rd Street Renton, WA 98055 206-251-6548 APDA is a membership organization and requires that you pay $20.00 a year to be a member. Jordan Mattson UUCP: jordan@apple.apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. CSNET: jordan@apple.CSNET Tools & Languages Product Management 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-4601 "Joy is the serious business of heaven." C.S. Lewis
nopuklic@ndsuvax.UUCP (Blayne Puklich) (09/01/88)
In article <554@utacs.UTA.FI> jmh@utacs.UUCP (Juha-Matti Heimonen) writes: [ ... ] > >I am currently using version 1.2d1 and I am quite happy with it (so far!). >There is anyway one thing that annoys me. I *want* to define my DLOGs as >resources but I would also like to have them well fitted to screens of >varying sizes, e.g. in the middle or the right bottom corner of the screen. >How can I get both of these?? > >Juha-Matti Heimonen jmh@utacs.UUCP One way to do this is to load the resource template for the DLOG into a DialogTHndl and fiddle with the boundsRect of the DLOG BEFORE calling GetNewDialog. You can then move it around as you wish by computing a coordinate based either on screenBits.bounds or, as IM vol V says on pp 121-122, GrayRgn's rgnBBox, which will give you the Rgn for all screens attached if you want to place it on a different screen. You need to make the DialogTHndl unpurgeable before playing with it, also. You can stuff the Rect you compute back into the boundsRect, and then call GetNewDialog, which will draw it at the new location. One thing to keep in mind is that if the DLOG has a window definition ID of documentProc, noGropwDocProc, or rDocProc, the title bar is NOT included in the DLOG template's boundsRect, so you'll have to adjust things 20 pixels accordingly. Oh, remember to make it purgeable again if you won't be needing it anymore. ||+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|| || Blayne Puklich nopuklic@plains.NoDak.edu || || NDSU Student ACM NU087763@NDSUVM1.bitnet || || Chairperson North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND || || || || "Everyone should have a Corvette, I think." || || NOTE: If nopuklic@plains.NoDak.edu bounces, revert to || || nopuklic@ndsuvax.EDU. || ||-------------------------------------------------------------------------||