[net.micro] Forth and Lisp, predictions for the next ? years, new things

FISCHER@RUTGERS.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP (08/11/83)

From:  Ron <FISCHER@RUTGERS.ARPA>

Forth and Lisp are both wonderful languages.

Forth and Lisp are often described as like one another, and in spirit
they are.  However, the implementation of Forth is designed to keep
overhead very low.  As mentioned previously, Forth may fit in 16k
bytes of code, but a real Lisp certainly wouldn't.  Perhaps Mr.
Pournelle felt that with the memory space of a typical personal
computer expanding as it is, that Lisp would become more practical for
personal use.


Which brings up another point.  What span of time were the predictions
supposed to be correct for?  They may be more reasonable when viewed
as predicting farther off events.  On the side of sarcasm however,
this is a typical ploy of planners and predictors: look far enough
into the future and things become hazy enough for even the wildest of
predictions to sound feasible.


I am more curious about whether the early grand visions of the Xerox
Learning Research Group are getting closer or discarded, aka
"Dynabook."  How about a micro-codeable 32 bit personable machine with
several meg bytes of fast and non-volatile memory, bitscreen, mice,
etc., *in a notebook*.  Would anyone out there like to revolutionize
the industry?

The current evolution of microcomputer products bores me.  At the very
beginning of the "microcomputer craze" everyone was amazed that they
could build such a device at all.  Then innovators grabbed a hold and
the market exploded.  Now things have collapsed into a degenerate
heap, where the best anyone has to offer is either an IBM-PC or Apple
clone that sells for slightly less than the original.

It seems the advertisers / marketing people have gummed up the works
by slapping "NEW AND IMPROVED!!" stickers on all the tired old
designs.

(ron)
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