[comp.sys.mac.programmer] using the control panel

md32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Joseph Darweesh) (04/17/89)

How can I (in LSP 2.0) chewnge stuff ni the control panel???
In this case, I'd like to change the size of the ram Cache,b ut I'd
like to be able to do other stuff too.  I have the Macintosh revealed
books available to me.

Thanks for any help,
The Weesh
(Mike Darweesh)
md32@andrew.cmu.edu
md32@andrew.bitnet
...!{harvard,ucbvax}!andrew.cmu.edu!md32

rang@cpsin3.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) (04/21/89)

About daylight savings time...unless Apple is willing to release a new
version of the system software every year, you can't automate it.
When DST begins and ends depends on the whim of Congress.

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holland@m2.csc.ti.com (Fred Hollander) (04/22/89)

In article <2646@cps3xx.UUCP> rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) writes:
>About daylight savings time...unless Apple is willing to release a new
>version of the system software every year, you can't automate it.
>When DST begins and ends depends on the whim of Congress.

I thought they announced that they would release a new version every
six months!  So they just need to coordinate the release with Congress :)

Fred Hollander
Computer Science Center
Texas Instruments, Inc.
hollander@ti.com

The above statements are my own and not representative of Texas Instruments.

dce@Solbourne.COM (David Elliott) (04/23/89)

In article <2646@cps3xx.UUCP> rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) writes:
>About daylight savings time...unless Apple is willing to release a new
>version of the system software every year, you can't automate it.
>When DST begins and ends depends on the whim of Congress.

I'll agree that you can't automate the software to the point that
you can slap the software on your machine and forget about it
and it will always be right, but I will not agree that you have to
release new software every year to solve this problem.

Neither will my Mac, which shifted to DST right on time this
year, and will shift right back in October (or whenever).  If
Congress decides to change this, I'll just pull down my Control
Panel and change the configuration of the Daylight cdev.

Software isn't so inflexible that it can't be written to be
user-configurable.

-- 
David Elliott		dce@Solbourne.COM
			...!{boulder,nbires,sun}!stan!dce

tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (04/25/89)

In article <2646@cps3xx.UUCP> rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) writes:
>About daylight savings time...unless Apple is willing to release a new
>version of the system software every year, you can't automate it.
>When DST begins and ends depends on the whim of Congress.

In article <859@marvin.Solbourne.COM> dce@Solbourne.com (David Elliott) writes:
>I'll agree that you can't automate the software to the point that
>you can slap the software on your machine and forget about it
>and it will always be right, but I will not agree that you have to
>release new software every year to solve this problem.
>
>Neither will my Mac, which shifted to DST right on time this
>year, and will shift right back in October (or whenever).  If
>Congress decides to change this, I'll just pull down my Control
>Panel and change the configuration of the Daylight cdev.

What an enormous improvement in the user interface.  Rather than
setting the clock forward or back one hour twice a year, you get to
reconfigure an automatic clock setter whenever Congress says so.  The
reconfiguration is obviously far more complex than resetting the clock
(I was talking about this with a UNIX jock lately -- his attitude: "Let
the idiots get a programmer to reconfigure it for them -- there's
enough programmers to go around" or words to that effect).  Most people
follow the news carefully enough to notice the DST reminders they
always give at the time, and there are plenty of other social cues; few
people follow the news closely enough to know in advance when Congress
has decided to change DST for the year.

In short, you've got an enormous step backwards in user friendliness.
Remember, the chief principle making the Mac easy to use is analogies
with commonly understood real-life mechanisms, like folders.  Making
the clock work in a different way from every "real" clock flies in the
face of this principle, with the predictable result of trashing user
friendliness.
-- 
Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim
"The negro slaves of the South are the happiest, and, in some sense, the
 freest people in the world.  The children and the aged and infirm work not
 at all, and yet have all the comforts and neccessaries of life provided for
 them." -- George Fitzhugh, CANNIBALS ALL! OR, SLAVES WITHOUT MASTERS, 1857