jane@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Jane Eisenstein) (05/10/89)
Are there are MultiFinder compatible versions of ResEdit? If so, could someone let me know what version number(s) are MultiFinder compatible? I'd be willing to spring for the APDA ResEdit package, but only if I can run it under MultiFinder.
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (05/11/89)
In article <45398@XAIT.Xerox.COM> jane@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Jane Eisenstein) writes: >Are there are MultiFinder compatible versions of ResEdit? If so, could >someone let me know what version number(s) are MultiFinder compatible? >I'd be willing to spring for the APDA ResEdit package, but only if I >can run it under MultiFinder. The current ResEdit (or at least the most recent one that I have) is 1.2b4, and it is completely MultiFinder compatible. It also fixes a large number of other major bugs, such as the infamous resource file corruption if you quit without explicitly closing your changed files. (It took me several weeks to break myself of the habit of closing every window by hand before quitting!) The only new bug I've observed is that the gray outlines of dialog items have been screwed up, displaced by one pixel, so that alignment operations and resizing operations can't be made to conform to an implicit alignment. For instance, say you have a user item and you want to grow it only horizontally. It used to be that you could grab the corner and drag it out making sure that the outline aligned wqith the bottom line of the item itself. If you do that now, then you will add one pixel to the vertical size of the item. Similarly, you used to be able to drag the gray outline of an item next to another item, aligning top and bottom or right and left, then drop it, and it would be aligned. Now it will be off by one pixel. This is somewhat compensated for by the addition of an "Align to Grid" item in the new DITL menu, but I hope it gets fixed anyway. It's a constant bother. -- Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim "There are no Famous People on the net. Only some of us with bigger mouths than others." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, The Roach
keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (05/12/89)
In article <7234@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >In article <45398@XAIT.Xerox.COM> jane@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Jane Eisenstein) writes: >>Are there are MultiFinder compatible versions of ResEdit? If so, could >>someone let me know what version number(s) are MultiFinder compatible? >>I'd be willing to spring for the APDA ResEdit package, but only if I >>can run it under MultiFinder. > >The current ResEdit (or at least the most recent one that I have) is >1.2b4, and it is completely MultiFinder compatible. It also fixes a The latest version of ResEdit is 1.2 (final). It comes with many samples in C and Pascal. It is available on AppleLink, Phil and Dave's Excellent CD (the new Developer Helper disk from Apple DTS), and APDA ($30, $1 for each day you have to wait for it). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. --- Developer Technical Support INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "Argue for your Apple, and sure enough, it's yours" - Keith Rollin, Contusions
pweent@spanglebaby.cc.umich.edu (05/12/89)
In article <30539@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >... Phil and Dave's Excellent CD (the new >Developer Helper disk from Apple DTS)... Please tell me more about this DTS CD. Sounds like I should try and get a copy. Brian Hall InterNet: pweent@spanglebaby.cc.umich.edu (preferred) AppleLink: D0017
keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (05/13/89)
In article <160@sharkey.cc.umich.edu> pweent@spanglebaby.cc.umich.edu (Brian Hall) writes: >In article <30539@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >>... Phil and Dave's Excellent CD (the new >>Developer Helper disk from Apple DTS)... > >Please tell me more about this DTS CD. Sounds like I should try >and get a copy. > Here are the first 2 pages of the liner notes that come with the CD: The Zen of Phil & Dave: Phil & Dave Excellent CD is a comprehensive collection of resources for Apple Developers, and it is the first in a series of development tools provided on CD-ROM under the title of Developer Helper(TM). In this prerelease incarnation, Phil & Dave is a rough example of what can be done with today's CD-ROM tech- nology to help developers (and Apple) organize and more effectively use all the information that is available for product development. As in the past with the Developer Technical Support (DTS) Technical Notes Stack and the just-released Q & A Stack, Phil & Dave is another step towards Apple's goal of providing its developers with the best technical support in the industry. With Phil & Dave, you now have a tool that puts at your finger- tips much of the development information you need on a day-to-day basis. Now you can find the answers to many of your technical questions in a matter of seconds, without searching through tomes of unorganized technical documentation. Phil & Dave also includes programming tools and utilities written by developers, and Apple engineers. These little tidbits can make your life a lot easier and might save you from re-inventing the wheel. If you have any favorties that you would like to contribute, let us know and wh'll try to get them included in the next release. Tha Apple Developer Group will be releasing new volumes of Developer Helper every quarter, and these will be sent in the regular Developer Services' monthly mailings. Phil & Dave and everyone else in the Apple Developer Group (including the dogcow) thank you for using Phil & Dave's Excellent CD, and especially for creating the great products that make the Apple(R) II and Macintosh(R) com- puters as successful as they are. Because Phil & Dave is a tool for you, your feedback and suggestions are important to us (really). Please let us know what you think and what we can do to make tools such as Phil & Dave more useful to you. Address your comments to: Phil & Dave Apple Developer Group Apple Computer Inc 20525 Mariani Ave M/S 51T Cupertino, CA 95014 AppleLink: DTS.Feedback ========================================================================== So much for liner notes. Here's what's really on the disk (this is acually described in the rest of the 22 pages of liner notes): HFS Partition: Disk Central (all past and present system disks, including current International versions) HyperCard (includes current domestic and International version) Information Island (handy Stacks for various types of information) Moof (aka Dogcow Heaven) (DTS toybox. Contains Technotes Stack, Q&A Stack, useful DA's and INITs, debugging tools such as Macsbug Reanimator and RamDump, documentation updates and the official "Apple publications Style Guide" and "Apple Publications Glossary", Inside mac hacks, 5 years of obfuscated c finalists, hardware tools such as NuBus Tester, Hypercard goodies such as developer kits, groupies, and way too may XCMDs and XFCNs, International goodies such as Blesser, Localizer, and Trans- lateIT!, MPW junk such as all the 3.0 interfaces and DTS scripts and tricks, Network goodies such as ADSP, MacTCP, and AppleTalk and Ethernet tools, Pearl Lisp, Apple II and Mac Sample Code, Apple II and Mac Technotes, revised technote and Q & A stacks through May '89) [whew!] Peripherals (software for that Apple FAX, CD SC drive, and imaging device of your choice. hard disk and tape backup utilities are provided, and for those of you who can't live without it, there's even Macintalk(TM), complete with interface files and sample programs). Utilities (Includes DredEdit 1.2, SEdit (a SCSI editor), and a growing list of anti-virus utilities (soon to outnumber viruses) Outside bug reporter, UnStuffit, FDA Mover, TeachText, and even the venerable Edit) ProDOS partition II.DISK.CENTRAL (past and present ProDOS and GS/OS system disks plus AppleShare WorkStation and BASIC Examples disks) GUIDED.TOURS (Yep, they're all here) TOOLS (Son of DogCow) (Includes the IIGS Debugger, Icon Editor, and development DA's such as Loader/Dumper and Scrambler. Also included are the APW interface files and tools such as Compact. And who could forget the DTS official Sample Code and Technical Notes, revised and updated through April '89) UTILITIES (SCSI tools, PRODOS.PACKER, and others) Sound Partition Now what what would an Apple Product be like without music (no, I *don't* mean Apple Corp.; I mean Apple Computer, Inc.). For your listening pleasure, we've included almost 30 minutes of audio sound- tracks. Nuff said... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. --- Developer Technical Support INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "Argue for your Apple, and sure enough, it's yours" - Keith Rollin, Contusions
darin@Apple.COM (Darin Adler) (05/13/89)
In article <45398@XAIT.Xerox.COM> jane@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Jane Eisenstein) writes: > Are there are MultiFinder compatible versions of ResEdit? If so, could > someone let me know what version number(s) are MultiFinder compatible? > I'd be willing to spring for the APDA ResEdit package, but only if I > can run it under MultiFinder. ResEdit 1.2 works without anomalies under MultiFinder. -- Darin Adler, System Software Scapegoat, Apple Computer Internet: darin@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc,sun}!apple!darin
ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (05/14/89)
In article <30594@apple.Apple.COM>, keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes... [stuff about Phil & Dave's Excellent CD] > >As in the past with the Developer Technical Support (DTS) Technical Notes >Stack and the just-released Q & A Stack, Phil & Dave is another step towards ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Where can one get the Q & A stack? Will it be posted to the net, a la the Technotes stack? Excellent! Robert ------ ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu ------ generic disclaimer: all my opinions are mine ------ MOFO knows!
ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (05/14/89)
In article <30594@apple.Apple.COM>, keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes... [stuff about Phil and Dave's Excellent CD] >As in the past with the Developer Technical Support (DTS) Technical Notes >Stack and the just-released Q & A Stack, Phil & Dave is another step towards ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Will the Q & A stack be posted to the net (like the Technotes stack)? --> Excellent! Or is it just available to Partners/Associates? --> Bogus. :-> Robert ------ ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu ------ generic disclaimer: all my opinions are mine ------ MOFO knows!
ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (05/14/89)
In article <3219@tank.uchicago.edu>, I wrote... > >Will the Q & A stack be posted to the net (like the Technotes stack)? >--> Excellent! Just remembered, the TN stack went to Sumex, not the net. Thus the question becomes: any plans to send Q & A to Sumex? One note: I think that the people at Apple: Larry R., Mark J, and all others, are really doing a great job of keeping us informed and answering questions. Kudos to all! Robert ------ ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu ------ generic disclaimer: all my opinions are mine ------ MOFO knows!
mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) (05/14/89)
In article <3219@tank.uchicago.edu> ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: > >Will the Q & A stack be posted to the net (like the Technotes stack)? >--> Excellent! > >Or is it just available to Partners/Associates? --> Bogus. :-> > The Q & A Stack, as well as the updated Technical Notes Stack, and the new MacDTS Sample Code will be distributed to all developers via the monthly mailings (for those who do not have CD-ROM drives) and will be posted to AppleLink, Usenet, and other electronic services. These are examples of our "one-to-many" solutions which ALL developers get and will always get. All developers who are Partners, Associates, and Certified with Apple will be receiving a copy of "Phil & Dave's Excellent CD" in their monthly mailing. At this point in time, there may not be any way for anyone who is not Certified to receive this CD, although almost all of the information is available on the nets (or will be soon) or on disk somewhere. If there is a great demand for the CD, then I'm sure the powers that be can be convinced to put it out through APDA. If you think you are interested in this, send me a message at an address below and we'll look into it further. Mark B. Johnson AppleLink: mjohnson Developer Technical Support domain: mjohnson@Apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!mjohnson "You gave your life to become the person you are right now. Was it worth it?" - Richard Bach, _One_
malczews@nunki.usc.edu (Frank Malczewski) (05/14/89)
So THAT's what happened to Pearl Lisp! -- Frank Malczewski (malczews@castor.usc.edu)
mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) (05/14/89)
In article <3220@tank.uchicago.edu> ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: > >Just remembered, the TN stack went to Sumex, not the net. Thus the question >becomes: any plans to send Q & A to Sumex? > Yes, when I send things of this size out, they go to SUMEX as well as other archive sites like SIMTEL-20, etc. Anything larger than a Technical Note will usually not be sent directly to newsgroups. Mark B. Johnson AppleLink: mjohnson Developer Technical Support domain: mjohnson@Apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!mjohnson "You gave your life to become the person you are right now. Was it worth it?" - Richard Bach, _One_
henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Henry C. Schmitt) (05/14/89)
In article <30539@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >The latest version of ResEdit is 1.2 (final). >It is available [from] APDA ($30, $1 for each day you have to wait >for it). Does this mean that after having paid $20 three months ago for 1.2b3, I now have to shell out another $30 to get the real version?? It's no wonder Apple releases developers' tools only through APDA, if APDA had any competition it'd go bankrupt in a week! -- H3nry C. Schmitt | CompuServe: 72275,1456 (Rarely) | GEnie: H.Schmitt (Occasionally) Royal Inn of Yoruba | UUCP: Henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Best Bet)
thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com (Ken McLeod) (05/16/89)
In article <8448@chinet.chi.il.us> henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Henry C. Schmitt) writes: >In article <30539@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >>The latest version of ResEdit is 1.2 (final). >>It is available [from] APDA ($30, $1 for each day you have to wait >>for it). Some observations on the 'final' ResEdit 1.2: All the pickers with templates now use Monaco 12 as the default font. YECCCHH!!! What was wrong with Chicago? This is *bogus*. ResMENU, the *excellent* MENU editor that installs as an 'RSSC' rsrc, breaks under 1.2 (yet again). (This was v1.2b1.1, which worked well with ResEdit 1.2b3.) Why isn't a graphic menu editor included as a standard part of ResEdit, like the DITL or ICN# editors? The "GetInfo" dialog for files and folders now includes a popup menu to edit Color (as seen in the Finder). Nice. List windows are now resizable, and the Preferences dialog includes options for setting default sizes. Very, very nice. Conclusion (not entirely objective): Items 1 and 2 above were more important to me than 3 and 4. I went back to 1.2b3. -- ========== ....... ============================================= Ken McLeod :. .: UUCP: ...{spsd,zardoz,felix}!dhw68k!thecloud ========== :::.. ..::: INTERNET: thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com //// =============================================
cyosta@taux01.UUCP ( Yossie Silverman ) (05/17/89)
.The latest version of ResEdit is 1.2 (final). It comes with many samples in C .and Pascal. It is available on AppleLink, Phil and Dave's Excellent CD (the new .Developer Helper disk from Apple DTS), and APDA ($30, $1 for each day you have .to wait for it). Does anyone know of a new version of MenuEdit ResEdit resource that works with version 1.2 of ResEdit? The current version does not. Another problem that has not been addressed in ResEdit1.2 is the ability to play sound on ANY machine when 6.0.2 is installed (and with it the NEW sound manager which is needed to play snd resources). -- Yossie Silverman What did the Caspian sea? National Semiconductor Ltd. (Israel) - Saki UUCP: cyosta%taux01@nsc.COM NSA LSD FBI KGB PCP CIA MOSAD NUCLEAR MI5 SPY ASSASSINATE SDI -- OOCLAY ITAY
keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (05/18/89)
In article <22968@dhw68k.cts.com> thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com (Ken McLeod) writes: >In article <8448@chinet.chi.il.us> henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Henry C. Schmitt) writes: >>In article <30539@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes: >>>The latest version of ResEdit is 1.2 (final). >>>It is available [from] APDA ($30, $1 for each day you have to wait >>>for it). > >Some observations on the 'final' ResEdit 1.2: Thanks for your comments. I've passed them on to the ResEdit programmer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. --- Developer Technical Support INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "Argue for your Apple, and sure enough, it's yours" - Keith Rollin, Contusions
mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson) (05/23/89)
In article <3352@tank.uchicago.edu> ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: > >Where can one get the Q & A stack? Will it be posted to the net, a la the >Technotes stack? Excellent! > Currently available on AppleLink, available shortly on the net and other electronic networks, on Phil & Dave's Excellent CD, to be included in the June developer mailing (with more Mac Sample Code and the updated Tech Notes Stack)... Mark B. Johnson AppleLink: mjohnson Developer Technical Support domain: mjohnson@Apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!mjohnson "You gave your life to become the person you are right now. Was it worth it?" - Richard Bach, _One_