[comp.sys.mac.programmer] C++ for the Mac???

lee@hhb.UUCP (lee daniels) (06/07/89)

I need information about the availability of  C++ development
environments for the Mac.  I can develop either under Mac OS or AUX
but the resulting application must be able to run under Mac OS as
a minimum.  I know that Apple is working on C++ for MPW. Is it available,
and if so is it any good?  Has someone ported GNU to MAC?  Is there a
third party with C++ out there?

Thank you for any help you can give me.


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shebanow@apple.com (Andrew Shebanow) (06/08/89)

Apple is working on a version of CFront 2.0 that runs under MPW. It has 
been delayed several times (its not our fault, really!), but with AT&T's 
publicly promised June 30 release date coming up, the end is near, and we 
should have a beta version available from APDA soon thereafter.

Andrew Shebanow
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ech@cbnewsk.ATT.COM (ned.horvath) (06/08/89)

From article <238@hhb.UUCP>, by lee@hhb.UUCP (lee daniels):

> I need information about the availability of  C++ development
> environments for the Mac.  I can develop either under Mac OS or AUX
> but the resulting application must be able to run under Mac OS as
> a minimum.  I know that Apple is working on C++ for MPW. Is it available,
> and if so is it any good?  Has someone ported GNU to MAC?  Is there a
> third party with C++ out there?

Apple have been working closely with the folks at AT&T, and say they will
ship an MPW cfront 2.0 "real soon" after AT&T ships.  AT&T sounds pretty
firm about 6/30 (no, I don't have any insider information), so expect C++
from Apple in the fall.  I don't expect MacApp support for C++ until 1Q90,
if then.

Meanwhile, Think (div. of Symantec) is planning a non-C++ OO extension to
their Lightspeed C package.  They demoed some preliminary stuff at MacWorld
in January, but haven't announced a ship date.

You ought to contact the usual suspects -- Oregon Software and Zortech come
to mind -- about A/UX-resident products.  They may not be useful for your
final product (or likely are, if you are disciplined) but should get you
started.

Doubtless there are other efforts of which I am ignorant...

=Ned Horvath=

ward@eplrx7.UUCP (ward) (06/15/89)

At Usenix on Tuesday(6/13) we asked some marketing types how much the new
version(2.0) of cfront would cost, and they said $20,000!  Of course, it's
only $18,000 for an upgrade from 1.*...

Long live GNU!

Seriously, this seems like an extremely steep rise in price.

Rick
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ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (06/22/89)

I saw an article in MacWeek that said (I believe) that AT&T had finally
released C Front.  Since this is what Apple was waiting on for their MPW C++,
is their any estimate on when that wil be released?

Jes curious...



Robert
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