[comp.sys.mac.programmer] System 7.0 questions

hammersslammers1@oxy.edu (David J. Harr) (07/02/89)

We know that 7.0 will allow VM to access 14 Mbytes under 24-bit addressing.
We also know that the Plus and the SE cannot use VM because they do not have
a PMMU. My question is: Are Plus and SE owners forever doomed to have no
more than 4 Mbytes of memory? Or, alternatively, will the new OS allow them
to use the new 4 Mbyte high density SIMMs, allowing them 14 Mbytes under 24
bit and 16 Mbytes under 32 bit addressing? It would be too bad if they are
an evolutionary dead end and are totally limited to 4 Mbytes.

dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) (07/04/89)

In article <42778@tiger.oxy.edu> hammersslammers1@oxy.edu (David J. Harr) writes:
>a PMMU. My question is: Are Plus and SE owners forever doomed to have no
>more than 4 Mbytes of memory?

  Probably, the Plus & the SE don't have the necessary circuitry to handle
the 4 meg chips.

>to use the new 4 Mbyte high density SIMMs, allowing them 14 Mbytes under 24
>bit and 16 Mbytes under 32 bit addressing? 

  the Plus & the SE can't do 32 bit addressing, they can only do 24-bit
addressing.  Also the reason that the plus & the SE can't do virtual
memory is because the 68000 can't do virtual memory {no flames please for
weird solutions, any resonable 68000 system can't do it}.

>an evolutionary dead end and are totally limited to 4 Mbytes.

  I wouldn't call them dead yet, but I think they might be up for retirement.
The 68000 is missing a lot of the key features in the new 020, 030, & 040 :-)
that will be required to take advantage of newer and hopefully better
software.

  That is of couse assuming that RISC chips don't take over the world :-)

  Hope this helps.
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jb28+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Joseph Barbose) (07/12/89)

Even if the Plus and SE are "forever doomed" to 4MB max, is there really any
need (in the reasonably near future) for any more than that?  Face it, if
you're going to be a power user, you probably have something more than a Plus
or an SE anyhow.  The not-so-intense computer users will have these and will
probably not require more than 4MB, and most will be more than happy with less
than that.

Jeff