wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) (09/27/89)
Soft PC achieves good performance for a software emulation of an OS/machine... ProComm under SoftPC beats Red Ryder for file transfers (not that that is a good example, RR is pokey anyway)... Question: Why do both II in a Mac and Mac ][+ have such HORRIBLE performance? An Apple II is a 1 mHz machine-- is it really that much more difficult to emulate than a PC? just wondering... b.bum wb1j+@andrew.cmue.du
king@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu (Jim King) (09/28/89)
In article <cZ8CEBm00VE1MH4dpG@andrew.cmu.edu> wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) writes: > >Soft PC achieves good performance for a software emulation of an OS/machine... >ProComm under SoftPC beats Red Ryder for file transfers (not that that is a >good example, RR is pokey anyway)... > >Question: Why do both II in a Mac and Mac ][+ have such HORRIBLE performance? > >An Apple II is a 1 mHz machine-- is it really that much more difficult to >emulate than a PC? > >just wondering... > >b.bum >wb1j+@andrew.cmue.du Does II-in-a-Mac run anything beyond Basic programs? I bought the program to edit Logo programs (I thought I would use this in conjunction with Soft-PC, which *does* work) on the Mac, but I could not get any of the Apple Logos to work with II-in-a-Mac. So I am curious to know whether anyone has found *any* programs that do work with this emulation. (I would be delighted to learn that there is a way to use this program for something.) Second, does Mac ][+ work with Logo? (I gather from the previous posting that this is doubtful.) I am disappointed that Apple has not tried as hard to encourage Apple II emulation (or an Apple II board) for the Mac as it did for PC boards and emulation, since some of us who work with schools need to be able to run Apple II software. Now that Apple seems to be pushing Macs into the schools, it would seem to be in their interest to enable Macs to run Apple II software. Yes, I know that Mac software tends to be better but here is the scenario: a school has a bunch of Apple IIs; maybe they can afford to buy a couple of Macs but they certainly can't replace the Apple IIs all at once. If the Macs could run Apple II software, then they could be used along with the other machines to increase the number of stations in the lab when students are working as a group, but the added power of the Mac would be available for special projects. In time, perhaps the Macs would come to dominate; but at the outset the school wants to buy computers that work with its current setup. Apple, how about an Apple II on a Mac board? (Or maybe someone could solve my problem by donating some Macs to a deserving elementary school? :-) ) Jim King king@math.washington.edu James King Dept of Math GN-50 Univ of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 543-1915
jness@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (Joel Ness) (09/28/89)
Speaking of Apple II emulators for the Mac; I'm currently playing with a copy of II in a Mac and find it nifty, but rather slow and limited as to what it can run. The company is apparently beginning to work on a mac equivalent to their II in a PC emulator, which is full screen, color, and runs more software. I hadn't heard of this other program, though, -- Mac II+. Can anyone give my information as to the company which makes it and how I might get ahold of them? Thanks, Joel Ness INTERNET: jness@ub.d.umn.edu Information Services BITNET: JNESS@UMNDUL University of Minnesota, Duluth