[comp.sys.mac.programmer] MacTCP site license

hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (02/09/90)

In article <1990Feb8.040223.1498@intercon.com> amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:
>
>You can also get a complete TCP/IP driver (with sample code and complete
>documentation) from Apple.  It's called MacTCP, and costs $100 for a single
>copy, $2500 for a non-commercial use site license.  This will let you open
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>TCP connections to other machines and transfer data across them.  It's a
>little more complex than using the serial driver, but as long as you have
>a reasonable amount of Macintosh programming experience and some knowledge
>of TCP/IP, it's not at all hard to use.

I just yesterday dropped a purchase req. and the license paperwork for
MacTCP off with our contracts people and the non-commercial price was
$1000. Since I don't think the price changed overnight :-), perhaps
$2500 is the commercial price.

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amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) (02/09/90)

In article <6250@ncar.ucar.edu>, hpoppe@bierstadt.scd.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe)
writes:
> the non-commercial price was
> $1000. Since I don't think the price changed overnight :-), perhaps
> $2500 is the commercial price.

Hmm.  Then again, they may have lowered the non-commercial license fee
sometime during the last n months.  Since we got our commercial MacTCP
redistribution license, I haven't paid too much attention...

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simon@alberta.uucp (Simon Tortike) (02/10/90)

I have a question about MacTCP: if I want to use NCSA Telnet MacTCP
version (a software product I believe is in the public domain) do I then
have to buy MacTCP through the official channels, or can I use the MacTCP
which came with another product?  Is MacTCP distributed more or less in the
manner of Apple's system software, i.e., users do not pay for a licence other
than indirectly through the application software which has the system
software bundled with it and when the user buys a Macintosh?
The remarks so far refer to paying for MacTCP licences when programming
with it.
Thanks,
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lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (02/13/90)

In article <1990Feb10.025432.25925@cs.UAlberta.CA> simon@alberta.uucp 
(Simon Tortike) writes:
> have to buy MacTCP through the official channels, or can I use the MacTCP
> which came with another product?  Is MacTCP distributed more or less in 
the
> manner of Apple's system software, i.e., users do not pay for a licence 

I believe that MacTCP works like other Apple system software.  You need a 
license from Apple to distribute it.  So companies shipping products have to 
license MacTCP if they want to include it on their disk.  Once a user has 
MacTCP, however, then s/he can use it with any program.

MacTCP is a bit different in that it is not shipped with every machine,
so you can't write a PD program that uses it and assume everyone will have
it.  People can buy MacTCP from APDA (and get the programming
documentation), or organizations can get site licenses.

I don't think the APDA product includes a license to distribute MacTCP.
For more info, contact Apple's software licensing department.

Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc.
Object Specialist

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