aoki@husc8.HARVARD.EDU (Edwin Aoki) (02/18/90)
Does anybody out there in netland know the definitions and such for windowoids (try saying that 3 times fast!) - those cute mini-windows that hang above everything else don't get trapped as the FrontWindow()? I see the GhostWindow parameter in IM I, but as I understand it, that's only one window, right? How do I place some number of floating windows above the FrontWindow (like SuperCard or Studio/8 et al.)? Thanks in advance for help... (please mail responses if possible....) -Edwin Aoki (aoki@husc8.harvard.edu/aoki@husc8.bitnet)
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (02/19/90)
In article <1722@husc6.harvard.edu> aoki@husc8.UUCP (Edwin Aoki) writes: >Does anybody out there in netland know the definitions and such for >windowoids (try saying that 3 times fast!) - those cute mini-windows that >hang above everything else don't get trapped as the FrontWindow()? > >I see the GhostWindow parameter in IM I, but as I understand it, that's only >one window, right? How do I place some number of floating windows above >the FrontWindow (like SuperCard or Studio/8 et al.)? The answer -- it's a major pain. You have to go through and modify the way you handle practically everything you do with windows, like moving, dragging, zooming, clicking, etc. System 7.0 may make it easier in the special case where you have windows floating above all other layers, but that code won't run under 6.0 most likely. In addition, this will almost certainly not address the equally common case where you want a subwindow to float only above a single window, such as a document-type-specific tear-off menu or a footnote window. -- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com FROM THE FOOL FILE: "American women, especially some of those on the net, might profit by being less concerned with their careers and more concerned with getting a good, old fashioned roll in the hay." -- William J. Fallon, wjf@cbnews.att.com, on soc.women (also uses the alias Walter J. Ficklestein)
wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (02/19/90)
In article <10303@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >In article <1722@husc6.harvard.edu> aoki@husc8.UUCP (Edwin Aoki) writes: >>Does anybody out there in netland know the definitions and such for >>windowoids (try saying that 3 times fast!) - those cute mini-windows that >>hang above everything else don't get trapped as the FrontWindow()? >> >>I see the GhostWindow parameter in IM I, but as I understand it, that's only >>one window, right? How do I place some number of floating windows above >>the FrontWindow (like SuperCard or Studio/8 et al.)? > >The answer -- it's a major pain. You have to go through and modify the >way you handle practically everything you do with windows, like moving, >dragging, zooming, clicking, etc. The solution I found, which is less than perfect for almost any application which already has some code written for it but worked it my case, was to use the support for floating windows in THINK C 4.0's Think Class Library. It is quite possible that if you own a copy of THINK C, even if you aren't using TCL the code in CFWDesktop.c might give you a few hints about how to implement it. It should be in the "More Classes" folder of the distribution. -- Mark Wilkins wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu
kent@sunfs3.camex.uucp (Kent Borg) (02/21/90)
In article <10303@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >System 7.0 may make it easier in the >special case where you have windows floating above all other layers, >but that code won't run under 6.0 most likely. In addition, this will >almost certainly not address the equally common case where you want a >subwindow to float only above a single window, such as a >document-type-specific tear-off menu or a footnote window. True, 7.0 code will not run under 6.0, but 7.0 (as described last May) is supposed to do what you want with windows. 7.0 does to the Window Manager what HFS did to the File Manager. "Windows" will now be either windows or they will be layers. Layers can contain further windows or further layers. Windows can be seen and clicked on. As with MultiFinder, windows in a given layer all sit together. The preliminary notes on 7.0 say that windows and layers should usually not be siblings, but that is exactly what you would want to get the effect you mentioned. 7.0 will do it. -- Kent Borg lloyd!kent@husc6.harvard.edu or ...!husc6!lloyd!kent MacNet: kentborg H:(617) 776-6899 W:(617)426-3577 "So simple minded. Kindergarten level with no content, but it's beautifully landscaped, and the architecture is interesting." -my mother on Epcot Center