dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) (03/27/90)
Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS?
- gnuemacs
- gcc
- g++
- gdb
- bison
- flex
- grep
- gnu smalltalk
etc.
It would be a much cheaper way to end up having C++ on one's machine as well
as some other nice tools. Could Think C be a starting point to moving this
stuff to the mac...FSF's opinions of Apple notwithstanding?
Just curious,
David
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keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (03/27/90)
In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? > > - gnuemacs > - gcc > - g++ > - gdb > - bison > - flex > - grep > - gnu smalltalk > > etc. > >It would be a much cheaper way to end up having C++ on one's machine as well >as some other nice tools. Could Think C be a starting point to moving this >stuff to the mac...FSF's opinions of Apple notwithstanding? I heard of someone doing this once (don't know where). The solution may not be so cheap. The gcc compiler required at least 5 megs of memory in which to compile. Silly thing assumed that it was running on a machine with VM, and we don't quite have that yet. If you don't have at least a 5 meg machine, then you'll have to add some memory. If you don't have a machine into which you can insert 5 meg of memory, then... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. --- Developer Technical Support INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "Argue for your Apple, and sure enough, it's yours" - Keith Rollin, Contusions
nebel@wam.umd.edu (Chris D. Nebel) (03/28/90)
In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? I know Flex and Bison have been ported to the Mac. Flex made it over as an MPW tool, not an application; I think Bison did too, but I'm not sure. They should be availible on sumex-aim. Chris Nebel nebel@wam.umd.edu
gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (03/28/90)
In article <1990Mar27.171820.17154@wam.umd.edu>, nebel@wam.umd.edu (Chris D. Nebel) writes... >In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >>Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? > >I know Flex and Bison have been ported to the Mac. Flex made it over as an MPW >tool, not an application; I think Bison did too, but I'm not sure. They should >be availible on sumex-aim. I think that both Flex and Bison are available as MPW tools from apple.com anonymous FTP. Robert ============================================================================ = gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu * generic disclaimer: * "It's more fun to = = * all my opinions are * compute" = = * mine * -Kraftwerk = ============================================================================
drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen) (03/28/90)
nebel@wam.umd.edu (Chris D. Nebel) writes: >In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >>Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? >I know Flex and Bison have been ported to the Mac. Flex made it over as an MPW >tool, not an application; I think Bison did too, but I'm not sure. They should >be availible on sumex-aim. egrep, gawk, tar, and sed have also been ported to MPW. There are others as well, but I don't recall what they are. -- Dennis Cohen Claris Corp. **************************************************** Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu (03/28/90)
In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? > [Stuf Deleted] > etc. > >It would be a much cheaper way to end up having C++ on one's machine as well >as some other nice tools. Could Think C be a starting point to moving this >stuff to the mac...FSF's opinions of Apple notwithstanding? > >Just curious, Hey great, gcc on the mac. Alright. Now let's see if it can compile Nethack 3... (MPW chokes like when I drink strong liquor :-)) If sed, awk, egrep have been ported, then where are they? Can I ftp them from somewhere? I've got Bison working kinda as a stand-alone app (only works once, then it starts spewing garbage). Flex just barfs and produces system errors. I've also got GNU Diff 1.14 up. Handles only text files. Tried to get patch running but it barfed and almost took my hard drive with it! Oh. Nethack 3 too. Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) THINK C is one way of getting the stuff over, but I think MPW is a better platform for the stuff, since you can do pseudo-pipe, etc. Johnny Lee jlee4@orchid.waterloo.edu or reply to this account
rsfinn@athena.mit.edu (Russell S. Finn) (03/28/90)
I recently posted versions of Bison and Flex that will compile under
THINK C 4.0 to create stand-alone applications to comp.binaries.mac. No
telling how long it will take before they propagate out to the rest of
the world; in the meantime, if you're desperate, let me know and I'll
mail them to you. But only if you're desperate; full source code is
included, so they're pretty big...
-- Russ
rsfinn@{athena,neutron.lcs}.mit.edud88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon Watte) (03/28/90)
I know that Johnny Lee, the guy who did the port of NetHack to
the mac we're now working with, has ported Bison and Flex as
stand-alone applications.
Maybe he posted them to comp.binaries.mac ?
Johhny, are you out here ?
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longer .sig available on requestes2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) (03/29/90)
tell me, since Apple is making Gnu C, are they taking the philosophy of public domain and making GNU C free? 8) #========##========##========##========*========##========##========##========# # MegaloErik: Loosing contact with VICE 10... Welcome to Andrew! # # ARPA: es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu Fido: 129/107 BBS: Mac @ Night (412) 268-8974 # # GEnie: E.SELBERG Delphi: LORDERIK CIS: 71470,2127 MacList: 6009/1 # #========##========##========##========*========##========##========##========# ...48 hours of continuous study have proven that Elvis is alive and teaching math at CMU.
coolidge@casca.cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge) (03/29/90)
es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) writes: >tell me, since Apple is making Gnu C, are they taking the philosophy of >public domain and making GNU C free? 8) They would have to, unless they want to provide the long-awaited and feared test case against the FSF (given the look-and-feel boycott, maybe it would be appropriate). The Gnu Public License requires that changes made to Gnu code have to be released if the changed version is distributed. I suspect that Apple will be happy to comply with the license, so both Gnu C and the source changes should be free. --John -------------------------------------------------------------------------- John L. Coolidge Internet:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP:uiucdcs!coolidge Of course I don't speak for the U of I (or anyone else except myself) Copyright 1990 John L. Coolidge. Copying allowed if (and only if) attributed. You may redistribute this article if and only if your recipients may as well.
rmtodd@servalan.uucp (Richard Todd) (03/29/90)
coolidge@casca.cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge) writes: >es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) writes: >>tell me, since Apple is making Gnu C, are they taking the philosophy of >>public domain and making GNU C free? 8) >is distributed. I suspect that Apple will be happy to comply with >the license, so both Gnu C and the source changes should be free. Considering that they already have done so with the GCC port to A/UX that David Berry of Apple did (both source and A/UX binaries are available for anon ftp from apple.com), it'd be surprising indeed if they didn't follow the same route with the MacOS GCC port. -- Richard Todd rmtodd@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu rmtodd@chinet.chi.il.us rmtodd@servalan.uucp Motorola Skates On Intel's Head!
chewy@apple.com (Paul Snively) (03/30/90)
In article <8a4EEt_00WI1E9F18B@andrew.cmu.edu> es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) writes: > tell me, since Apple is making Gnu C, are they taking the philosophy of > public domain and making GNU C free? 8) Who said that we were going to distribute GCC under anything other than A/UX? __________________________________________________________________________ Paul Snively Macintosh Developer Technical Support Apple Computer, Inc. 1st Choice: Paul_Snively.DTS@qm.gateway.apple.com 2nd Choice: CHEWBACCA@applelink.apple.com Last Choice: chewy@apple.com Just because I work for Apple Computer, Inc. doesn't mean that I believe what they believe, or vice-versa. __________________________________________________________________________
chris@imagine.ADMS-RAD.Unisys.COM (Chris Sterritt) (03/30/90)
In article <10961@claris.com> drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen) writes: >nebel@wam.umd.edu (Chris D. Nebel) writes: >>In article <1730002@aspen.IAG.HP.COM> dlw@aspen.IAG.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >>>Has anyone ported the GNU environment to the Mac OS? >>I know Flex and Bison have been ported to the Mac. Flex made it over as an MPW >>tool, not an application; I think Bison did too, but I'm not sure. They should >>be availible on sumex-aim. >egrep, gawk, tar, and sed have also been ported to MPW. Could some kind MPW-ite do whatever is necessary to get these over to the Rest of Us(tm)? These are tools I'd like to have, EVEN IF ALL I GET IS SOME command-line type of interface. thanks, chris sterritt Chris Sterritt - chris@adms-rad.unisys.com - "PACWWTRSPOPDATBOTDR" President -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PACWWTRSPOPDATBOTDR: "Philadelphia Area Citizens Who Want the 'Rocky' Statue Placed on Permanent Display at the Bottom of the Delaware River." --------------------------------------------------------------------------
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (03/30/90)
In article <1990Mar28.011005.8521@athena.mit.edu> rsfinn@athena.mit.edu (Russell S. Finn) writes: >I recently posted versions of Bison and Flex that will compile under >THINK C 4.0 to create stand-alone applications to comp.binaries.mac. No >telling how long it will take before they propagate out to the rest of >the world; in the meantime, if you're desperate, let me know and I'll >mail them to you. But only if you're desperate; full source code is >included, so they're pretty big... So why not post it to comp.SOURCES.mac??? Some of us live on systems where the owners (rightly) have a grudge against no-source-code software, so they don't carry the binary groups. Why in the name of Beelzebub would people post their SOURCES to the BINARIES group? -- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com FROM THE FOOL FILE: "In any religion or form of worship, followers should be allowed to think for themselves. In every religion that has a god other than Jesus Christ, adherents are not allowed to think for themselves." -- Lauren Stratford, "Satan's Underground"
rsfinn@athena.mit.edu (Russell S. Finn) (03/30/90)
Following many people's suggestions, I have also submitted my THINK C
versions of Bison and Flex to info-mac, in an attempt to perform an
end-around of comp.binaries.mac. So presumably they will be appearing
at sumex-aim.stanford.edu for anonymous FTP soon.
-- Russ
rsfinn@{athena,neutron.lcs}.mit.edues2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) (03/30/90)
no one, I just head that it was a drop-in replacement for MPW C, so I was wondering (half-heartedly) if you were making the source + executable files public domain. #========##========##========##========*========##========##========##========# # MegaloErik: Loosing contact with VICE 10... Welcome to Andrew! # # ARPA: es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu Fido: 129/107 BBS: Mac @ Night (412) 268-8974 # # GEnie: E.SELBERG Delphi: LORDERIK CIS: 71470,2127 MacList: 6009/1 # #========##========##========##========*========##========##========##========# ...48 hours of continuous study have proven that Elvis is alive and teaching math at CMU.