eberard@bse.com (Edward V. Berard) (07/28/90)
Folks, Within the next few months I will have to make a decision regarding my Macintosh environment. I plan on acquiring (or already have) the following programming languages: - C++, - Smalltalk, - Eiffel, - Common Lisp Object System (CLOS), - Ada, - and one or two other "object-oriented" programming languages. All of the above are supported, by more than one vendor, for the Macintosh. My current Macintosh system is a IIfx with 8 megs of RAM, an internal 160 meg hard disk, an external 175 meg hard disk, an Apple CD ROM drive, and a Radius 21-inch monochrome monitor. I am currently running System 6.0.5. I can entertain the purchase of additional memory, or My question is seemingly simple: In terms of development environments for the above mentioned object-oriented programming languages, am I better off with the traditional Macintosh environment, or should I definitely consider AUX 2.0? Keep in mind that, by the time I have to commit to one or the other, System 7.0 will either be available or very close to available. -- Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edward V. Berard | Phone: (301) 353-9652 Berard Software Engineering, Inc. | FAX: (301) 353-9272 18620 Mateney Road | E-Mail: eberard@bse.com Germantown, Maryland 20874 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mnykanen@cc.helsinki.fi (08/02/90)
In article <b.G6SJBD@bse.com>, eberard@bse.com (Edward V. Berard) writes: > Folks, > > Within the next few months I will have to make a decision regarding > my Macintosh environment. I plan on acquiring (or already have) the > following programming languages: > > - C++, > - Smalltalk, > - Eiffel, > - Common Lisp Object System (CLOS), > - Ada, > - and one or two other "object-oriented" programming languages. > > All of the above are supported, by more than one vendor, for the > Macintosh. Where did you get Eiffel for the Mac? Price, quality, ..? -- Matti Nyk{nen CS Student at Helsinki U, Finland email: mnykanen@cc.helsinki.FI The best opinions available; get them while they're hot!
cory@three.MV.COM (Cory Kempf) (08/03/90)
eberard@bse.com (Edward V. Berard) writes: > C++ >All of the above are supported, by more than one vendor, for the >Macintosh. Other than MPW, who are you getting C++ for the mac from? >My question is seemingly simple: > In terms of development environments for the above mentioned > object-oriented programming languages, am I better off with > the traditional Macintosh environment, or should I definitely > consider AUX 2.0? Hmmm. For C++, you would probably be better of on the MacOS side unless you are fantastically rich. I have seen the price of typical unix software tools -- on the order of 10x the cost of similar mac tools. Additionally, there just is not that much available for A/UX. Currently, it doesn't have the market share that SCO or DEC or SUN have (just to name a few). Additionally, there is a lot of work being done with MacApp, both by people inside Apple and outside. Now if they could just come up with a way to learn how to use it from C++ for less than $1000, I might join them. It would also depend on what you are developing for -- if your target is a UNIX box, then A/UX would probably be your best bet. If you were just doing OOP because OOP is fun, then I would stick with MacOS. >Keep in mind that, by the time I have to commit to one or the other, >System 7.0 will either be available or very close to available. This too would cause me to stay with MacOS: System 7 is (supposed to be) free. Based on the price for A/UX 2.0, I would expect that you would have to shell out a couple of hundred dollars to get System 7 functionality for A/UX when it is available. Considering the functionality differences, in most cases, it is not worth the price difference. +C -- Cory Kempf I do speak for the company (sometimes). The Enigami Co. 603 883 2474 email: cory@three.mv.com, harvard!zinn!three!cory