Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA (10/25/83)
From: Robert N. Goldberg <Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA> My mother is trying to use Apple Pascal to teach a high school computer course. She tells me it complains about "procedure too long" if a procedure or main program is longer than some very small amount, maybe 60 lines (I've forgotten the exact number but it was small enough to hit her on a programming exercise intended for beginners). I have never seen it myself and am trying to give her advice long distance. It sounds to me like Apple Pascal is essentially a toy, not really meant for production or even serious computer science exercises. Is this your impression also? Bob -------
dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (10/28/83)
From: Robert N. Goldberg <Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA> My mother is trying to use Apple Pascal to teach a high school computer course. She tells me it complains about "procedure too long" if a procedure or main program is longer than some very small amount, maybe 60 lines (I've forgotten the exact number but it was small enough to hit her on a programming exercise intended for beginners). I have never seen it myself and am trying to give her advice long distance. It sounds to me like Apple Pascal is essentially a toy, not really meant for production or even serious computer science exercises. Is this your impression also? Bob ------- No, it's usable with long programs. I'm working (not by choice, mind you) with Apple Pascal 1.1 on a complex program for teaching musical concepts to kids. It's awkward to use and behaves inconsitently, but long procedures are certainly possible, and the system can do a lot if you coax it hard enough. Dave Sherman CSRG, U of Toronto -- {cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo,uw-beaver}!utcsrgv!lsuc!dave
fran@cbscc.UUCP (Frank Webb) (11/01/83)
I have used Apple Pascal on a number of real systems, and it is anything but a toy... There is a constraint on the size of the code which you can submit without the swapping option {s+}, and this may be the problem she is running into. F. J. Webb