Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA (10/25/83)
From: Robert N. Goldberg <Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA> My mother is trying to use Apple Pascal to teach a high school computer course. She tells me it complains about "procedure too long" if a procedure or main program is longer than some very small amount, maybe 60 lines (I've forgotten the exact number but it was small enough to hit her on a programming exercise intended for beginners). I have never seen it myself and am trying to give her advice long distance. It sounds to me like Apple Pascal is essentially a toy, not really meant for production or even serious computer science exercises. Is this your impression also? Bob -------
dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (10/28/83)
From: Robert N. Goldberg <Goldberg@RUTGERS.ARPA>
My mother is trying to use Apple Pascal to teach a high school computer
course. She tells me it complains about "procedure too long" if a procedure
or main program is longer than some very small amount, maybe 60 lines (I've
forgotten the exact number but it was small enough to hit her on a programming
exercise intended for beginners). I have never seen it myself and am
trying to give her advice long distance.
It sounds to me like Apple Pascal is essentially a toy, not really meant
for production or even serious computer science exercises. Is this
your impression also?
Bob
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No, it's usable with long programs. I'm working (not by choice,
mind you) with Apple Pascal 1.1 on a complex program for teaching
musical concepts to kids. It's awkward to use and behaves inconsitently,
but long procedures are certainly possible, and the system can do a lot
if you coax it hard enough.
Dave Sherman
CSRG, U of Toronto
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{cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo,uw-beaver}!utcsrgv!lsuc!davefran@cbscc.UUCP (Frank Webb) (11/01/83)
I have used Apple Pascal on a number of real systems, and it is
anything but a toy... There is a constraint on the size of the code
which you can submit without the swapping option {s+}, and this may
be the problem she is running into.
F. J. Webb