twl@cs.brown.edu (Ted "Theodore" W. Leung) (10/31/90)
I just read in MacWeek that their reviewers had trouble generating an NMI from the keyboard using control-command-power. I went down to the computer store here and found the same trouble. Command power seems to work as a reset, but sometimes need a few extra kicks (presses) to get a reset. This sounds like a really bad idea for programming and debugging. Anybody out there with a IIsi that has experience using the programmer's switch equivalents? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet/CSnet: twl@cs.brown.edu | Ted "Theodore" Leung BITNET: twl@BROWNCS.BITNET | Box 1910, Brown University UUCP: uunet!brunix!twl | Providence, RI 02912
bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) (11/01/90)
From article <TWL.90Oct30142642@boojum.cs.brown.edu>, by twl@cs.brown.edu (Ted "Theodore" W. Leung): > I just read in MacWeek that their reviewers had trouble generating an > NMI from the keyboard using control-command-power. I went down to the > computer store here and found the same trouble. Command power seems > to work as a reset, but sometimes need a few extra kicks (presses) to > get a reset. This sounds like a really bad idea for programming and > debugging. Anybody out there with a IIsi that has experience using > the programmer's switch equivalents? Having read this yesterday, I tried it on a hung program when I set up my si last night. It worked first time, every time. -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu "Was all of this because I wore a big man's hat?"
oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster) (11/02/90)
The release notes for the IIsi say that you must hold down the key sequence
for at least 1 second to generate the NMI. Now that you know this, you
should find it more reliable.
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-- oster@well.sf.ca.us = {backbone}!well!osterllama@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Joe Francis) (11/02/90)
In article <21461@well.sf.ca.us> David Phillip Oster writes: >The release notes for the IIsi say that you must hold down the key sequence >for at least 1 second to generate the NMI. Now that you know this, you >should find it more reliable. AAhhh! Oh well. This shoots the iisi for me. I'm a heavy user of macsbug (SADE can't tell me what my variables are half the time, and half of the rest of the time it can its wrong). It's so convenient to be able to click on your "Do something time intensive" button in your program and then break into macsbug, confident that you dont have to change the current heap to yours since multifinder doesn't get a chance to swap you out when your code is to busy to call WaitNextEvent. Having the NMI take 1 second shoots all of that. Probably just a minor anoyance to a few macsbug fans, but things like that really get me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Switch is Dead: Long Live the Programmers Interrupt Switch" - JAF
oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster) (11/10/90)
although the m6800 keyboard processor on the si generates an NMI after
1 second, if you install the "Programmer's Key" INIT, available on the apple
developer cd-roms, and from users groups, it will trigger at the next VBL.
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