[net.micro] hard sectored vs. soft sectored 5 1/4" floppies

ables@ut-ngp.UUCP (King Ables) (11/18/83)

Can someone send me a COMPLETE set of differences between hard and
soft-sectored 5 1/4" floppy disks??  I bought my H89 used and just
found out (to my surprise!) that my drive is hard-sectored.  I'd
really appreciate any help anyone can give.

king
(ables@utexas-11.ARPA  or  ...!ut-sally!ut-ngp!ables.UUCP)

ABN.COSCOM-CE%usc-isid@sri-unix.UUCP (11/21/83)

As far as I know the difference between hard sectors and soft sectors is
analogous to the difference between using a cartridge versus a disk to 
load a program on an ATARI.  A disk has to have certain pointers and 
directory space formatted onto  it. Otherwise the drive or computer would
not know where the software is located on the disk. With systems that use
hard sectored disks, the software to ormat a disk is not included with 
the system and the disk formatting is done by the manufacturer.  With soft
sectored disks the formatting software is included or can be purchased and 
the disk is purchased virtually blank. One advantage for the hard sectored
type is that the operator does not have to understand how to format.  
Additionally, the company then has more control over the disk market.  That is 
why hard sectored disk are almost always provided with dedicated word
processing systems such as Lanier and Micom.

So, like the cartridge versus disk, the hard sectored disk is an unwritable
format scheme while the soft sectored disk is a writable scheme at the operator
level.  (not a very hot analogy I realize but I tried)

Kevin Rappold
1LT US Army

MCMANIS%USC-ECLC%sri-nic@sri-unix.UUCP (11/23/83)

From:  Chuck McManis <MCMANIS%USC-ECLC@sri-nic>


A Note on Hard Sectoring Vs. Soft Sectoring. Disks are divided up into 
tracks, each track is a concentric circle spaced some regular distance 
from the previos track. The number of tracks you can possibly read or
write on a disk is designed into the hardware, typically between 30 and
80 tracks for a 5-1/4" floppy. Each track is then cut into segments 
called sectors. These vary in length depending on how close to the 
center you are. EVERY floppy disk has an Index hole to tell the hardware
where the first sector starts on all of the tracks, in addition to this
some floppie controllers allow you to divide up the track into as many or 
as few sectors as you want, these are called soft sectord because the 
the controller writes sector information on the disk, and can change it
later if it so desires. However, to simplify hardware requirements some
people got the great idea of adding a series of hole on the hub of the 
disk to indicate where all of the sectors started, then the timeing 
wasn't so critical since the disk told you when a new sector came up
however you could NOT change the size of the sectors. Hence the name
"hard" sectored. You will find that word processors need only minimal
disk functions and hence every penny one can save is more profit, so
that is why their disks are hard sectored because it is cheaper to 
build interfaces for them. Hope this clears this up somewhat.

				--Chuck
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howard%brl-bmd@sri-unix.UUCP (11/23/83)

From:      Howard Walter <howard@brl-bmd>

	While it is true that every floppy disk that I know of has a
hole which can be used to tell where the first sector starts, it is not
true that all disk drives use this hole. Apple drives, in particular,
are completely soft sectored. All sector information is written on the
disk by a formatting program. The drive does NOT contain circuitry to sense
the hole in the disk. (A penny saved is a penny more profit).

Howard Walter