tedj@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Ted Johnson) (02/27/88)
Does anyone know where I can get the Public Domain utility program called "Discipline"? Scott Knaster mentions it in "How to Write Macintosh Software", p95. It is a program that checks your ROM parameters, to make sure they have reasonable values. -Ted
thomas@duteca (Thomas Okken) (12/28/90)
(I posted this question some time ago, but I have reason to doubt whether it got through to the rest of the world, so here it is again.) I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. This utility checks the parameters passed to Mac Toolbox and OS calls for validity, so you can catch those very nasty and hard-to-find bugs that you get when an erroneous trap call corrupts system data structures. This utility should work together with MacsBug, and I found a reference to it in the MacsBug manual, but it seems only registered developers have easy access to it. Where can a mere mortal like myself obtain this gadget? Some FTP site maybe? Any help would be appreciated! Thomas (thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl)
Thomas.Okken@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Thomas Okken) (12/29/90)
From: thomas@duteca
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(I posted this question some time ago, but I have reason to doubt whether
it got through to the rest of the world, so here it is again.)
I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. This utility checks
the parameters passed to Mac Toolbox and OS calls for validity, so you can
catch those very nasty and hard-to-find bugs that you get when an erroneous
trap call corrupts system data structures.
This utility should work together with MacsBug, and I found a reference to
it in the MacsBug manual, but it seems only registered developers have easy
access to it. Where can a mere mortal like myself obtain this gadget?
Some FTP site maybe? Any help would be appreciated!
Thomas (thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl)
+ Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
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INTERNET: Thomas.Okken@f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORGChris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gehlker) (01/01/91)
TO> I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. This utility
TO> checks the parameters passed to Mac Toolbox and OS calls for
TO> validity, so you can catch those very nasty and hard-to-find
TO> bugs that you get when an erroneous trap call corrupts system
TO> data structures. This utility should work together with MacsBug,
TO> and I found a reference to it in the MacsBug manual, but it seems
TO> only registered developers have easy access to it.
I don't think it really exists. It's not on the developer CDs or the ETO CDs.
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Internet: Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.orgdaven@svc.portal.com (01/05/91)
In article <33839.277FF08D@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gehlker) writes: >TO> I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. > >I don't think it really exists. It's not on the developer CDs or the ETO CDs. > This another nice debugging utility that I believe is still in beta test by Apple. I'm told that it works very nicely with TMON Pro and the newer Apple Macsbug's. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Newman | daven@svc.portal.com | AppleLink: D0025 Sofware Ventures Corp. | AOL: MicroPhone | CIS: 76004,2161 Berkeley, CA 94705 | WELL: tinman@well.sf.ca.us | (415) 644-3232
sobiloff@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (Chrome Cboy) (01/05/91)
In article <33839.277FF08D@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gehlker) writes: >TO> I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. This utility > >I don't think it really exists. It's not on the developer CDs or the ETO CDs. Err, it was mentioned in a recent "Stop Byte" editorial in Byte magazine as a fantastic idea of Steve Capp's (I *think*; I don't have the issue here to double-check the author's name). So, the question remains, where the heck to get this utility?! I'd really like to use it on stuff I'm working on--I'm sure I've made a few misteaks here and there.... :-) -- _____________ ___________________________________________________/ Chrome Cboy \______________ | "With the zeal of Amerigo Vespucci, who 'discovered' the Americas some years | | after Columbus landed here, Microsoft's CEO Bill Gates laid claim to the || 'new' territory of a totally graphical user environment, which he promised || in future versions of Windows." --MacWEEK, 11.20.90, covering Comdex/Fall |
jmunkki@hila.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) (01/05/91)
In article <1991Jan5.013532.4524@svc.portal.com> daven@svc.portal.com writes: >In article <33839.277FF08D@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gehlker) writes: >>TO> I'm looking for a utility (INIT?) called Discipline. >> >>I don't think it really exists. It's not on the developer CDs or the ETO CDs. >> >This another nice debugging utility that I believe is still in beta test >by Apple. I'm told that it works very nicely with TMON Pro and the newer >Apple Macsbug's. TMON has discipline as one of the user area routines. You can choose between lenient and strict discipline. Either way, most Macintosh applications make slightly illegal calls. Common problems are calling SetPort with a nil pointer and other similar horrors. In fact, I just tried discipline on a bug I had been trying to locate and it caught one illegal handle... I hope that was the problem. Programmers: If you have TMON, use strict discipline before you sell, post or give away any of your code. Discipline doesn't bother you unless there really is a problem. I can't notice any slowdown while discipline is active. ____________________________________________________________________________ / Juri Munkki / Helsinki University of Technology / Wind / Project / / jmunkki@hut.fi / Computing Center Macintosh Support / Surf / STORM / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lawson.English@p88.f15.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Lawson English) (01/07/91)
Chrome Cboy writes in a message to All
CC> Err, it was mentioned in a recent "Stop Byte" editorial in Byte
CC> magazine as a fantastic idea of Steve Capp's (I *think*; I don't
CC> have the issue here to double-check the author's name). So, the
CC> question remains, where the heck to get this utility?! I'd really
CC> like to use it on stuff I'm working on--I'm sure I've made a
CC> few misteaks here and there.... :-)
I just hit the programmer's key, got into TMON, and toggled pages in the user's
area until I found something called "trap discipline." Is this what you meant?
Came with the latest version of TMON.
Lawson
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Internet: Lawson.English@p88.f15.n300.z1.fidonet.orgLawson.English@p88.f15.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Lawson English) (01/07/91)
Juri Munkki writes in a message to All
JM> Programmers: If you have TMON, use strict discipline before you
JM> sell, post or give away any of your code. Discipline doesn't
JM> bother you unless there really is a problem. I can't notice any
JM> slowdown while discipline is active.
SetRect occasionally will cause yelps, I am not sure why. One of my mentors
said (without explaining and I'm too stupid to ask questions when I get a chance)
that it was not relevant to discipline's purpose when SetRect made it antsy.
Lawson
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Internet: Lawson.English@p88.f15.n300.z1.fidonet.orgTHOR.JOHNSON@f1009.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG (THOR JOHNSON) (01/12/91)
I don't know where/if you can get a Discipline init, but an identical
feature (the same code, perhaps?) is built into TMON (which is worth
buying for that reason alone).
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