[net.micro] What home computer to buy

bryan@ihuxf.UUCP (11/22/83)

Since you want a HOME computer, I assume you mean a computer for
the whole family to use.  Therefore you don't want a business or
CP/M system. CP/M is great for a hobbiest but not for someone learn-
ing to use a computer. That leaves more or less the following:
Atari
Apple
Comodore
Radio Shack
TI (if you can still get them)
(forget about an Adam, this year anyway)

The Atari has a good amount of software, very user friendly
lower in price than an Apple, but a little more expensive than a C64.
It has very good customer support.  It has the best graphics
of the group.  But the Atari suffers from third party (cheap) 
hardware support; this might change with the new line. And it is 
also one of the most reliable home computers. (Very well built)
Don't let the game image fool you (Games are one of the most
diffuclt thing for a computer to do hardware wise). 

The Apple is the most expensive of the group but, has lots of 
software, can be used by the whole family and allows you to 
tiker around with hardware projects. But it is expensive.
It also can be used as a business computer.

The Comodore Vic 20 is in my opnion a toy that pretends to be
a computer. What are you going to do with 5k of ram and a 20
colum display? Answer, very little. It can be upgraded to a
computer but then you might as well buy something else.
But it is a cheap way to go if you don't want to spend much
money, and don't know if you want a computer.

The Comodore 64, This would be alot better choice than buying
a Vic 20. The 64 seemingly gives you the most computer for
the dollar, but it has two big drawbacks, it is unreliable and
has very poor customer support. 

The Radio Shack CoCo may not be a bad choice, but I don't
know enough about it to make any comments.

The TI might be a bargin but it is an M.D. product. Also it suffers
from software support and expensive add ons.  

covert@ihuxq.UUCP (covert) (11/22/83)

The uses of a home computer must be delimited before a purchase
can be made. If the computer is to be used mainly for entertainment
then any of the small systems (Commodore, TI, Atari, etc.) should
suffice. On the other hand, if the system is to be used for personal
business or family general computing, then a system with acess to a
large body of professional should be considered. Such a system would
consist of the following:
1. CPU and CPU-related hardware (i.e. main memory, serial and parallel
io, expansion boxes, etc.).
2. System peripherals such as modems, printers, terminals and
voice sythesisizers (sp?).
3. Disk storage, either floppy or hard disk, preferably 10M to 20M.
4. Software such spreadsheet, database management, word processor, etc..

Discussing these four requirements separately:
The cpu should be one which readily available software. The eight-bit
8080/8085 and z-80 are good choices. The 16-bit 8088 appears to be the
most popular cpu now. The faster the cpu clock, the bettr, generally.
An expansion box should be available so that as your needs grow you
can add to your base system. Various types of io ports should be 
available so as to allow you use many type and vendors of peripherals.
This allows you to pick the best peripheral for your specific need.

The system peripherals should be able to interface to your machine. Things
to look for are rs-232c serial and Centronics parallel interfaces. Many
modems are available with serial interfaces. Most printers can be purchased
with either serial or Centronics paralle interfaces. Serial interfaces
can use a longer cable, so as to allow the printer to be located in
a convenient location. Parallel cables are generally short (less then
5 feet) and may restrict you choices in locating your printer.

The disk storage is actually are of the most important parts of your
system. A small system will be much more useful if you can store all
of your programs on-line. A system with 100k to 300k floppys just 
does not have enough storage to be useful on a daily basis.


In conclusion, a home computer can be used for mainly entertaninment
or for educational and/or business purposes. If used for entertainment
then any machine with a large body of games should suffice. If used
for serious programming then you should purchase a system that is
expandable, with a large body of software and peripherals. A CP/M
sytem or an ibm-pc would be acceptable.
-- 
			richard covert
			ihnp4!ihuxq!covert

miller@uiucdcs.UUCP (miller ) (11/25/83)

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uiucdcs!miller    Nov 24 23:51:00 1983

In response to the person who claimed you should not buy a c64 because it is
unreliable and has very poor customer support: utter nonsense.  I have had my
c64 about 6 months now and it has not been down once (in fact, I am using it
right now with a Lexicon modem to type this in).  I am aware of only two hard-
ware problems with the c64, both of which Commodore has recently fixed (heat
problems with the disk and a video problem).  It is true that Commodore does
not have a toll free service number; however, they do have a number you can
call if you are willing to pay the phone charges.
Also, the claim was made about another computer having better graphics.  In my
opinion, I have not seen better graphics than on the c64.
If you wish to criticize the c64, it would be better to attack the processor
used (the 6510).  It is, unfortunately, rather weak.  But then, the machine is
selling for $100 mail order.  I guess (unless you are buying a NAME like Apple)
you get what you pay for.