[net.micro] Reply to:Re: Call for Osborne Executive owners

POURNE%mit-mc@sri-unix.UUCP (11/17/83)

From:  Jerry E. Pournelle <POURNE@mit-mc>

I think I am confused.  It's OK to advertise one's car for sale,
or an apartment for sub-lease, but not to offer to trade
software?  Are there indeed rules to the use of these nets, or
is  t here a sort of concensus, or do we simply have
self-appointed proctors, or what?

cfh@cca.UUCP (Christopher Herot) (11/29/83)

Recent press coverage has speculated that the entire software
protection mechanism for micros is built on a rather unstable
foundation.  I haven't heard yet of anyone being taken to court
yet for swapping micro software.  It is entirely possible that
a judge or jury could decide that the fine print on the back of
the floppy package no more of a contract than the fine print on
the back of a box of cereal.  As a software vendor, would you 
want to try to explain to a jury why the law should have more
to say about what you can do with your floppy disk than what
kind of bread you can put in your toaster.

jim%rand-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (11/29/83)

Copying copyrighted software for a friend is quite a bit different from
putting bread in a toaster (where did you get that simile??).  It's more
like putting a book in a Xerox machine.  If Xeroxing were cheaper, would
you feel that copying the latest book by Trevanian for a dozen friends
is perfectly moral?

	Jim@rand-unix
	randvax!jim

cfh%cca-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (12/01/83)

From:  Christopher Herot <cfh@cca-unix>

In response to your message of Wed Nov 30 19:49:04 1983:


I got the simile from the Wall Street Journal.  It wasn't meant to
apply to copying disks but only to the swapping of the originals.
Believe it or not, this practice is prohibited by many of the
contracts which claim to license the program to the original
purchaser.  The article in the Journal went on to express doubt
that this doctrine would hold up in court, since it would be hard
to justify placing any more restrictions on the use or disposition
of one product over another.

edhall%rand-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (12/07/83)

The `non-transferability' language in these software contracts sounds
a bit like a publisher requiring you to agree that you won't loan your
book to a friend.  Obviously, such use is not prohibited by copyright
and I doubt that a publisher that required you to agree not to loan
your books would last long.  Yet on the other hand per-CPU licensing
agreements have been the norm in the computing industry for a long time.

As the publishing and the software industries converge, it will be
interesting to see which of these enormous bodies of legal precedence
will prevail.  Perhaps we need only to look at the current flap over
videotape rentals to get a taste of the future.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand-unix        (ARPA)
		decvax!randvax!edhall   (UUCP)