mkh6317@zeus.tamu.edu (HOWARD, MATTHEW KENDALL) (05/15/91)
It is really annoying that Apple's own software breaks under their new operating system. Didn't they follow the guidelines? :-) I understand that MPW3.1 doesn't have hooks to the new system features but it really shouldn't break. BTW, I hope someone figures out real quick how to get rid of the balloon crap. If I'm not using it I don't want it taking up space on the menu bar either. "This is a folder." Jeeze. Has anyone run speedometer on 7.0 release? I noticed 7.0b4 was significantly slower than 6.0.5-7. I'm hoping that the release executes faster. What is the best University price on the personal-kit been? The lowest I've heard here on the net is $89. This upgrade business is starting to add up. $$ It seems that all my favorite software is in the "must-upgrade" category. Perhaps System 7.0 isn't for everybody, me for example.
macgyver@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (MacGyver) (05/15/91)
In article <16226@helios.TAMU.EDU> mkh6317@zeus.tamu.edu writes: >Has anyone run speedometer on 7.0 release? I noticed 7.0b4 was >significantly slower than 6.0.5-7. I'm hoping that the release >executes faster. I haven't done any speedometer test or anything like that. But I can tell that 7.0 is significantly slower than System 6 from just using it. It's understandable, considering all the stuff that's in System 7. -- Wilson MacGyver | True love strikes again, huh? That's Internet:macgyver@cis.ohio-state.edu | the third time this week! =====================================| - Robin Disclaimer:All opinions are mine only|=======================================
ml27192@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Lanett) (05/15/91)
macgyver@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (MacGyver) writes: >In article <16226@helios.TAMU.EDU> mkh6317@zeus.tamu.edu writes: >>Has anyone run speedometer on 7.0 release? I noticed 7.0b4 was >>significantly slower than 6.0.5-7. I'm hoping that the release >>executes faster. > I haven't done any speedometer test or anything like that. >But I can tell that 7.0 is significantly slower than System 6 from >just using it. It's understandable, considering all the stuff >that's in System 7. Especially since 7.0b4 is FULL OF DEBUGGING CODE. Just why does one expect a BETA version of a rewritten operating system to act as polished as the old one? >-- >Wilson MacGyver | True love strikes again, huh? That's >Internet:macgyver@cis.ohio-state.edu | the third time this week! >=====================================| - Robin >Disclaimer:All opinions are mine only|======================================= -- //----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Lanett ml27192@uxa.cs.uiuc.edu Software Tools Group, NCSA mlanett@ncsa.uiuc.edu To create a Mac emulator you would only need to write a screensaver for Windows that draws a bomb box.
wiechman@athos.rutgers.edu (NightMeower) (05/15/91)
In article <16226@helios.TAMU.EDU> mkh6317@zeus.tamu.edu (HOWARD, MATTHEW KENDALL) writes: > It is really annoying that Apple's own software breaks under their > new operating system. Didn't they follow the guidelines? :-) > I understand that MPW3.1 doesn't have hooks to the new system > features but it really shouldn't break. > During the beta cycles, the notes said that you must use MPW 3.2 which was in beta under System 7.0. One could easily assume that one should continue to do so under the final version. Kevin -- =========================================================================== Kevin S. Wiechmann arpa: wiechman@cs.rutgers.edu This is only a test... for the next sixty seconds...
breidenb@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Oliver Breidenbach) (05/16/91)
In article <121478@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> macgyver@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (MacGyver) writes: > > I haven't done any speedometer test or anything like that. >But I can tell that 7.0 is significantly slower than System 6 from >just using it. It's understandable, considering all the stuff >that's in System 7. > What machine are you using it on? On my IIfx it seems to be a lot faster than 6.0.7. (Norton SI on SoftPC indicates an increase of 2.5%). But that's probably just because all those neat new features hit exactly my needs and therefore increase my productivity. Well done, Apple. But please rethink your distribution policy. If anyone can get 7.0 from dealer, why is there no way for the experts to get it from their friends legally? Anyone who wants to steal it will get it anyway. Oliver. (who wants to be in san jose right now.)
macgyver@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (MacGyver) (05/16/91)
In article <1991May15.212001.24059@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> breidenb@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Oliver Breidenbach) writes: >What machine are you using it on? On my IIfx it seems to be a lot faster than >6.0.7. (Norton SI on SoftPC indicates an increase of 2.5%). >But that's probably just because all those neat new features hit exactly my >needs and therefore increase my productivity. I tried it on regular Mac II, IIx, and SE/30, haven't gotten around to install 7.0 on my IIfx because I don't have MPW 3.2 yet. -- Wilson MacGyver | True love strikes again, huh? That's Internet:macgyver@cis.ohio-state.edu | the third time this week! =====================================| - Robin Disclaimer:All opinions are mine only|=======================================
time@ice.com (Tim Endres) (05/16/91)
In article <16226@helios.TAMU.EDU> you write: > It is really annoying that Apple's own software breaks under their > new operating system. Didn't they follow the guidelines? :-) > I understand that MPW3.1 doesn't have hooks to the new system > features but it really shouldn't break. MPW is a very sophisticated program. I am surprised it has been as compatbile as it has been with previous OS releases. Its breaking under Sys7 is no more a surprise than its breaking under A/UX. > BTW, I hope someone figures out real quick how to get rid of the > balloon crap. If I'm not using it I don't want it taking up space > on the menu bar either. "This is a folder." Jeeze. Turn it off. > What is the best University price on the personal-kit been? The > lowest I've heard here on the net is $89. This upgrade business > is starting to add up. $$ It seems that all my favorite software > is in the "must-upgrade" category. > > Perhaps System 7.0 isn't for everybody, me for example. Sounds like that might be. ------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Endres | time@ice.com ICE Engineering | uupsi!ice.com!time 8840 Main Street | Voice FAX Whitmore Lake MI. 48189 | (313) 449 8288 (313) 449 9208
Lawson.English@p88.f15.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Lawson English) (05/18/91)
Oliver Breidenbach writes in a message to All
OB> Well done, Apple. But please rethink your distribution policy.
OB> If anyone can get 7.0 from dealer, why is there no way for the
OB> experts to get it from their friends legally? Anyone who wants
OB> to steal it will get it anyway.
Is this true? My user's group will be carrying it on their BBS (fools!). The
AMUG will ship it for $25 + $3 shipping (includes The System 7 Book). Under
the assumption that we can share, a friend of mine and I have agreed to share
our copy once we get it.
From what you suggest, none of the above are legit...
Lawson
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