[net.micro] 8086 tools on VAX

phil@amd70.UUCP (Phil Ngai) (12/09/83)

Some time ago I posted a request for information on 8086 tools running
on Berkeley VAX Unix. I received various replies and would like to thank
everyone who wrote. However, no one had exactly what I wanted. Intermetrics
came close, but it's not quite enough.

I just talked to a company called "Systems and Software, Inc". They offer
a product called REX-SMA/186. The feature they have that no one else I know
of has is INTEL ENVIRONMENT COMPATIBILITY. Their tools are upward compatible
with Intel ASM-86, LINK-86, LOC-86 and LIB-86. I consider this very important.

Intel is always going to have emulators first. To use them you'll use their
development system. If your cross development tools are not compatible with
the Intel environment, then it's almost worthless to have cross development.

Now comes the reason for this article: SSI thinks the market is mostly VMS.
They aren't scheduled to have a Unix version until July, 1984, but the
guy I talked to indicated if he got a lot of requests they could accelerate
the Unix version.

So, would everyone who's even slightly interested please call

	Wilson Chan, (714) 241-8650

and tell him how wonderful Unix is and how you wouldn't even consider using
VMS to do cross development on. I would also appreciate mail from people
who found this article to be of interest.

-- 
Phil Ngai (408) 988-7777 {ucbvax|decwrl|ihnp4|allegra}!amd70!phil

grw@inmet.UUCP (12/15/83)

#R:amd70:-416400:inmet:5800034:000:636
inmet!grw    Dec 13 13:17:00 1983

Information I have heard indicates that somewhere in the vicinity of 95% of all
embedded microprocessor designers/implementors who use VAXs as development
systems run VMS.  If this is true then engineers using BSD4.1/4.2 may find
themselves at the bottom of every cross-development tool builder's priority
list.

At any rate, why do you want to lock yourself in to Intel boxes?  There are
many fine emulator systems on the market most of which work in conjunction
with a VAX or similiar host system.


					-- Gary Wasserman
					...harpo!inmet!grw
					...hplabs!sri-unix!cca!ima!inmet!grw
					...yale-comix!ima!inmet!grw
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phil@amd70.UUCP (Phil Ngai) (12/25/83)

>Information I have heard indicates that somewhere in the vicinity of 95% of
>all embedded microprocessor designers/implementors who use VAXs as development
>systems run VMS.  If this is true then engineers using BSD4.1/4.2 may find
>themselves at the bottom of every cross-development tool builder's priority
>list.

This may be true but I'm not going to use VMS without a fight. And is it true?
Anyone else care to comment on this?

>At any rate, why do you want to lock yourself in to Intel boxes?  There are
>many fine emulator systems on the market most of which work in conjunction
>with a VAX or similiar host system.

Show me a 286 emulator...
(although the title of the original article originally said 8086, I really
meant Intel family processors)
-- 
Phil Ngai (408) 988-7777 {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd70!phil