ari@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ari Halberstadt) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May28.201908.8580@MDI.COM> jackb@MDI.COM (Jack Brindle) writes: >In article <1991May27.005435.26313@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> ari@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ari Halberstadt) writes: >>ResEdit 2.1 allows you to set an "Auto Position" attribute for 'DLOG', >>'ALRT', and 'WIND' resources. After browsing through IM-VI and the >>ResEdit 2.1 manual I didn't see any explanation of how the Window >>Manager will auto-position windows, or how to indicate to the Window >>Manager which window is a another window's parent. Was this feature >>planned for system 7.0 but didn't make it by the release date, or am I >>overlooking something? > >This info is discussed at some length in Volume VI's Window Manager >chapter. You can now get the window manager to auto position windows >just about any way you can imagine... I did read a version of IM-VI, though evidently Apple has quite a few versions floating around. The one I'm talking about is the one DTS mailed us and which arrived almost on the same day as Quantum Books received their shipment. I simply assumed that this was the final version, though there were obvious ommissions (see above). Evidently, I now must fork over another $40 to own the real IM-VI. Makes me wonder how committed DTS is to us registered developers.
keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) (05/30/91)
In article <1991May29.133839.22483@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> ari@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ari Halberstadt) writes: > >I did read a version of IM-VI, though evidently Apple has quite a few >versions floating around. The one I'm talking about is the one DTS >mailed us and which arrived almost on the same day as Quantum Books >received their shipment. I simply assumed that this was the final >version, though there were obvious ommissions (see above). Evidently, >I now must fork over another $40 to own the real IM-VI. Makes me wonder >how committed DTS is to us registered developers. Just what kind of commitment are you looking for? So far, for $350, you get much better support than that offered by other companies for 10-20 _times_ that amount. Those aren't my claims; I'm just re-iterating what many people on this net who have had to work with other Tech Support departments have told me. So what causes you to wonder at the level of commitment by DTS (and, for that matter, all of the Apple Developer Group, which is responsible for the actual mailings)? Are you just peeved that you didn't get IM VI in the mail? Was it ever promised to you? If so, then hang tight; it'll show up. If not, then why are you expecting it? Because ADG/DTS sent you numerous alpha and beta copies of 7.0 and IM VI? If this is the case, then I'd thank my lucky stars that I worked with a company that cared enough to work with developers that closely. Believe me ... Apple is _very_ dedicated to its developers. Disclaimer: I'm not a DTS engineer, but I used to play one on TV. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "But where the senses fail us, reason must step in." - Galileo
ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik) (05/30/91)
In article <1991May29.133839.22483@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, ari@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ari Halberstadt) writes: > I did read a version of IM-VI, though evidently Apple has quite a few > versions floating around. The one I'm talking about is the one DTS > mailed us and which arrived almost on the same day as Quantum Books > received their shipment. I simply assumed that this was the final > version, though there were obvious ommissions (see above). Evidently, > I now must fork over another $40 to own the real IM-VI. Makes me wonder > how committed DTS is to us registered developers. Well, just for your information, we have not received the final Addison Wesley IM VI book for DTS use either. Makes us wonder how committed AW is to DTS :-) (who is not even involved in developer material seeding). Apple has seeded various alpha and beta releases of this book to registered developers, and I'm sure the cost for this activity is far more than $40/developer. Kent Sandvik
nilesinc@well.sf.ca.us (Avi Rappoport) (05/31/91)
Enough DTS bashing/defense: What about this Window Manager and Auto Position stuff? Would somebody who has this information please post it?
alexr@apple.com (Alexander M. Rosenberg) (06/01/91)
In article <25150@well.sf.ca.us>, nilesinc@well.sf.ca.us (Avi Rappoport) writes: > > > Enough DTS bashing/defense: What about this Window Manager and Auto > Position stuff? Would somebody who has this information please post it? > > ResEdit (and Rez) will let you specify an additional word to go at the end of ALRT, DLOG, and WIND resources. This word tells the Window Manager that you want special placement of the window, such as "Alert position 1/3 from the top." There is also a full API for this sort of ability. This stuff is currently undocumented. There are minor bugs with parts of it. I dunno what the official ruling is on it. Someday, it might get fixed up and documented, maybe not. Experiment if you feel comfortable doing so. You might look at the "new" 7.0 Desk Accessories and control panels. I think that some of them use this for their windows. Caveat Emptor. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Alexander M. Rosenberg - INTERNET: alexr@apple.com - Yoyodyne - - 330 1/2 Waverley St. - UUCP:ucbvax!apple!alexr - Propulsion - - Palo Alto, CA 94301 - - Systems - - (415) 329-8463 - Nobody is my employer so - :-) - - (408) 974-3110 - nobody cares what I say. - -