graham@convex.com (Marv Graham) (06/20/91)
I have just begun to use a MAC. I have use UNIX for 8 years and like it. How close to a UNIX-like command interface is MPW? I really like real makefiles that aloow me to build several interrelated applications. I find ThinkC's projects hard to use in comparison. Comments please? I would also like opions/comments on AppMaker <=> Prototyper. I would like to use the better of these to ease my way into writing MAC applications in conjunction with ThinkC. Which do you recommend? Something else?
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (06/20/91)
In article <1991Jun19.203232.24353@convex.com> graham@convex.com (Marv Graham) writes: >I have just begun to use a MAC. I have use UNIX for 8 years and like it. >How close to a UNIX-like command interface is MPW? Imagine somebody took UNIX, changed all the command names, changed almost all the options and metacharacters, and added a few mouse/window-oriented frills. This is more or less how I view MPW. Some of the frills (eg, Commando) are kinda nice. The changed command names are rectifiable. The options aren't that important. The metacharacters are HORRID, because they're hard to remember how to type. (Option-shift- scratch-your-underarm-K types of things.) There are also numerous minor gotchas that sometimes make MPW behave in ways UNIX never would. On the whole, it's a livable environment for a UNIX refugee, though I vastly prefer the real thing. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner
shores@fergvax.unl.edu (Shores) (06/21/91)
In <1991Jun19.212528.24133@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes: >In article <1991Jun19.203232.24353@convex.com> graham@convex.com (Marv Graham) writes: >>I have just begun to use a MAC. I have use UNIX for 8 years and like it. >>How close to a UNIX-like command interface is MPW? >Imagine somebody took UNIX, changed all the command names, changed almost all >the options and metacharacters, and added a few mouse/window-oriented frills. >This is more or less how I view MPW. A friend of mine here is working on a command-line interface. I've played around with a development version. I don't really enjoy all the typing involved with these things, but since most of the few commands he's implemented perform just as they do in unix, it would probably be a godsend for unix/DOS diehards. Myself, I was impressed with being able to do things with wildcards, about the only thing I envy in unix. Tom... Tommy... Thomas... the Tom-ster, the Tom-boy, the Tomminator... ... Tom Shores, Department of Mathematics, University of Nebraska. ... shores@fergvax.unl.edu
francis@zaphod.uchicago.edu (Francis Stracke) (06/21/91)
In article <shores.677458596@fergvax> shores@fergvax.unl.edu (Shores) writes: A friend of mine here is working on a command-line interface. I've played around with a development version. I don't really enjoy all the typing involved with these things, but since most of the few commands he's implemented perform just as they do in unix, it would probably be a godsend for unix/DOS diehards. Myself, I was impressed with being able to do things with wildcards, about the only thing I envy in unix. Under Sys7 you can do a Find, by whatever criterion you like, and click the "All at Once" button to select all files matching the criterion. You can then do whatever you want with them. This is a nice way to get wildcards of the form part*, *part, and *part* (and their negations, which I don't think Unix does); it's not as nice as general regexps, but you can search by file type, modification date, etc. It's getting there. :-) -- /============================================================================\ | Francis Stracke | My opinions are my own. I don't steal them.| | Department of Mathematics |=============================================| | University of Chicago | Should five percent appear too small, | | francis@zaphod.uchicago.edu | Be thankful I don't take it all. "Taxman" | \============================================================================/