dpk@brl-vgr.arpa (04/29/83)
From: Doug Kingston <dpk@brl-vgr.arpa> ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: From Brl-Bmd.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 29 Apr 83 7:37 EDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 29 Apr 83 7:24 EDT Date: 29 Apr 83 7:19:45 EDT (Fri) From: BRL Memo Service (MMDF 1/83) <mmdf@brl.arpa> Subject: Failed mail To: Orphanage <mmdf@brl-bmd.arpa> Your message could not be delivered to 'bashcra @ Bbn-Unix (queue: smtp)' for the following reason: 'User "bashcra" Unknown.' Your message follows: Date: 29 Apr 83 5:47:44 EDT (Fri) From: BRL Memo Service (MMDF 1/83) <mmdf@BRL> Subject: Failed mail To: bashcra@bbn-unix.arpa Your message could not be delivered to 'TCARNAHAN @ Usc-Isie (queue: smtp)' for the following reason: 'Unknown user - TCARNAHAN@usc-isie' Your message begins as follows: Received: From Brl-Bmd.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 28 Apr 83 13:29 EDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 28 Apr 83 13:10 EDT Received: From Apg-1.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 28 Apr 83 12:54 EDT Date: 28 Apr 1983 12:51:54 EDT (Thursday) From: Betty L Ashcraft (STEAP-MD) <bashcra@apg-1.arpa> Subject: Mailing List To: info-micro@brl.arpa Cc: bashcra@apg-1.arpa Request my name be removed from your mailing list. Thanks, ... ----- End of forwarded messages
mmdf%brl-bmd@sri-unix.UUCP (06/07/83)
From: BRL-BMD Memo Service (MMDF 4/83) <mmdf@brl-bmd> Your message could not be delivered to 'info-micro-outbound @ Brl (queue: brlnet)' for the following reason: 'Unable to parse address' Your message follows: Received: From Brl-Vgr.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 6 Jun 83 15:36 EDT Received: From Bbnccd.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 6 Jun 83 15:34 EDT Date: 6 Jun 83 15:17:22 EDT (Mon) From: BRL-BMD Memo Service (MMDF 4/83) <mmdf@brl-bmd> To: msimpson@bbn-unix Subject: Failed mail Redistributed-by: Mike Simpson <msimpson@bbn-unix> Redistributed-to: info-micro@brl-vgr, postmaster@brl Redistributed-date: 6 Jun 1983 15:35:12 EDT (Monday) Your message could not be delivered to 'info-micro-outbound @ Brl (queue: brlnet)' for the following reason: 'Unable to parse address' Your message follows: Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 6 Jun 83 14:21 EDT Received: From Bbnccd.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 6 Jun 83 14:15 EDT Date: 6 Jun 1983 14:04:35 EDT (Monday) From: Mike Simpson <msimpson@bbn-unix> To: harpo!seismo!hao!cires!nbires!zhahai@ucb-vax Cc: msimpson@bbn-unix In-Reply-to: Your message of 3 Jun 83 4:13:11-PDT (Fri) Subject: Re: piracy Redistributed-by: Mike Simpson <msimpson@bbn-unix> Redistributed-to: info-micro@brl Redistributed-date: 6 Jun 1983 14:18:19 EDT (Monday) Zhahai, Being somewhat of a flaming libertarian at heart, I have strong opinions against taking something that one does not own without the permission of the owner. I also feel just as strongly in the rights of the individual consumer/purchaser of software. With that in mind, let me respond to some of the "for instance"s you propose. (Please bear in mind that I am NOT flaming against you in any way; I am merely stating my opinion.) 1) Making a backup copy of software is NOT piracy -- provided, of course, that the copy is used solely as a backup. Backing up software is strictly good common sense. 2) Tinkering with the PROMs in your micro should not be construed as piracy -- would you be accused of piracy if you decided that the shock absorbers on your car were not what you wanted, and so went out and purchased a new set and installed them? 3) Any BASIC assembler that (for some obscure legal reason) couldn't be disassembled, I wouldn't buy in the first place. You get the general picture. In a true, free-market environment (which may not happen in my lifetime -- I am 22) the real problem would be that of outright theft and subsequent sale at a profit, which would be an abuse of the free-market environment. Of course that's another story altogether, and should be punished most harshly, but tinkering with a system to see how it works and/or how to improve its performance should be encouraged, not threatened. -- cheers, Mike Simpson Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. Ten Moulton Street, Cambridge, MA 02238 (USnail) msimpson@bbn-unix OR msimpson@bbnccd (ARPA) msimpson.bbn-unix@udel-relay (CSNET) 617-497-2819 (Ma Bell)
mmdf%brl-tgr@sri-unix.UUCP (01/06/84)
From: BRL-TGR Memo Service (MMDF 6/83) <mmdf@brl-tgr> After 0 days (-15 hours), your message could not be fully delivered. 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Less often, they are caused by the communication system. Your message begins as follows: Received: From Brl-Vgr.ARPA by BRL-TGR via smtp; 6 Jan 84 11:12 EST Received: From Ucb-Vax.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 4 Jan 84 1:44 EST Received: from ucbesvax.ARPA by UCB-VAX.ARPA (4.22/4.18) id AA05052; Tue, 3 Jan 84 22:44:17 pst Date: Tue, 3 Jan 84 22:44:00 pst From: Michael Turner <turner%ucbesvax@berkeley> Message-Id: <8401040644.AA11594@ucbesvax.ARPA> Received: by ucbesvax.ARPA (4.22/3.7) id AA11594; Tue, 3 Jan 84 22:44:00 pst To: gwyn@brl-vld.ARPA Subject: Re: typedefs, etc. - (nf) Cc: info-unix@brl-vgr.ARPA Thank you for your opinion. Offhand, I would compute its value as (0 ? 0 : 0) != (0 <= 0 ? (0 >= 0) : 1) ...