elk@ihuxr.UUCP (L.L. KLAUSNER) (01/26/84)
I see that everyone is finaly getting their Byte Magazines. This isn't the only one that is late. My NIBBLE hasn't come for two months and is this late or not! They was supposed to start the subscription in Nov. (at least my check was cashed in Oct) but had to call in Jan to get the Dec. issue. I did get the Feb issue just today but yet have to receive the Jan one. I called them and they said that the issues are delivered to the subscribers approx. 2 weeks after the news stands get theirs. So it seems as with Byte that a subscriber is of second interest to the publishers and he/she will get the issues last. Also they said that they will not send out any replacement issues until the next issue is sent.
abc%brl-bmd@sri-unix.UUCP (01/29/84)
From: BRINT <abc@brl-bmd> NO COMMENT- ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: From Brl-Vgr.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:49 EST Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:36 EST Received: From Sri-Unix.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:29 EST Received: from Usenet.uucp by sri-unix.uucp with rs232; 28 Jan 84 1:08-PST Date: 26 Jan 84 7:31:31-PST (Thu) To: info-micro@brl From: ihnp4!ihuxr!elk@ucb-vax Subject: Byte + Article-I.D.: ihuxr.863 I see that everyone is finaly getting their Byte Magazines. This isn't the only one that is late. My NIBBLE hasn't come for two months and is this late or not! They was supposed to start the subscription in Nov. (at least my check was cashed in Oct) but had to call in Jan to get the Dec. issue. I did get the Feb issue just today but yet have to receive the Jan one. I called them and they said that the issues are delivered to the subscribers approx. 2 weeks after the news stands get theirs. So it seems as with Byte that a subscriber is of second interest to the publishers and he/she will get the issues last. Also they said that they will not send out any replacement issues until the next issue is sent. ----- Forwarded message # 2: Received: From Brl-Vgr.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:56 EST Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:37 EST Received: From Sri-Unix.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:30 EST Received: from Usenet.uucp by sri-unix.uucp with rs232; 28 Jan 84 2:12-PST Date: 26 Jan 84 12:24:07-PST (Thu) To: info-micro@brl From: ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe@ucb-vax Subject: Re: No January BYTE here either.. Article-I.D.: ihlts.329 In-Reply-To: Article <15474@sri-arpa.UUCP>, <1146@pur-phy.UUCP> <428@sdcsvax.UUCP> I think those who feel that publishers of magazines (Byte included) care less about subscribers than newsstands just because the latter get copies first have misunderstood just how magazines are distributed. Subscribers pay a smaller amount and get copies delivered through the phenomenally slow (but cheap) U.S. Postal Service. Magazine distributors (and newsstand operators) pay much more to have them delivered by the faster (but more expensive) United Parcel Service. They also sell many, many copies which means more money for the publishers. It's not a question of "paying less attention to those who deserve it" because they subscribe, it's entirely a matter of economics. If you wish to purchase a large number of Byte magazines each month and pay the UPS charges, you will get them when the newsstands do. Of course, you have to go through a distributor, and magazine distributing is, shall we say, very ORGANIZED. Each distributor pays an agency (sort of a FAMILY business) to "protect" the distributor's virtual monopoly in a region. So you have no choice but to obtain magazines through THIS distributor and to accept the magazines he chooses. It's not a fun business relationship. Consider yourselves fortunate that you can subscribe to magazines at all and avoid these "businesspeople". ----- Forwarded message # 3: Received: From Brl-Vgr.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 28 Jan 84 12:31 EST Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:37 EST Received: From Sri-Unix.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 28 Jan 84 11:30 EST Received: from Usenet.uucp by sri-unix.uucp with rs232; 28 Jan 84 1:39-PST Date: 12 Jan 84 12:59:00-PST (Thu) To: info-micro@brl From: hplabs!hp-pcd!john@ucb-vax Subject: Re: No January BYTE here either.. Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.6200031 In-Reply-To: Article <15474@sri-arpa.UUCP> Its strange that everyone is complaining that Byte is coming in a couple of weeks late. The information is usually 3 to 4 months old by the time it gets printed anyway so why should a little longer hurt? If its really that critical then you should pay the extra $1.97 per issue and get it earlier at the local Safeway. Complaining to the publisher may help since its the long time subscribers that provide a large predictable source of revenue. That is something that they want to keep happy. I wonder if the crowded magazine market is forcing them to fight a battle for shelfspace? John Eaton !hplabs!hp-pcd!john ----- End of forwarded messages