bradr@bartok.Eng.Sun.COM (Brad Rubenstein) (07/10/90)
Music-Research Digest Mon, 9 Jul 90 Volume 5 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: German need advice on choosing a typewritten notation Time change without pitch change *** Send contributions to Music-Research@uk.ac.oxford.prg *** Send administrative requests to Music-Research-Request *** Overseas users should reverse UK addresses and give gateway if necessary *** e.g. Music-Research@prg.oxford.ac.uk *** or Music-Research%prg.oxford.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk *** Back issues, index, etc.: send "help" in a message to archive-server *** @uk.ac.oxford.prg (in the UK) or @bartok.sun.com (elsewhere) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Jul 90 11:41:21 EDT From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@mil.brl> Subject: German To: sdpage <sdpage%uk.ac.oxford.prg@uk.ac.nsfnet-relay> Message-ID: <9007091141.aa16723@VMB.BRL.MIL> I am seeking help via archive-server regarding an issue I accidentally deleted today. It has some German in it, and I see special characters such as } appearing therein, and I am not sure where I'd inquire regarding the meaning of such special characters. [ Moderator's reply: ] The strange characters result from the display of a German ASCII-like character set. From my weak German knowledge, I would suggest the following: { - a-umlaut } - u-umlaut [ - A-umlaut ] - U-umlaut | - o-umlaut I assume that O-umlaut is also translated, but I didn't see any of those in the message you are trying to decrypt. If this looks tedious, imagine the fun our German readers must have when we put things in square brackets or braces! - S ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jul 90 19:16:44 GMT From: Carey Richard Murphey <rich%brazos@edu.rice> Subject: need advice on choosing a typewritten notation To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <RICH.90Jul8141644@uncle-bens.Rice.edu> In article <1641@yenta.alb.nm.us> dt@yenta.alb.nm.us (David B. Thomas) writes: I have rather a humbler objective. I would like to develop or use an existing system of representing music in ascii format. David points out some good objectives for an ascii representation -- one is standardization. Two other objectives for the format should be readability and ease of parsing. Using _ and = is attractive since it saves keystrokes and makes parsing easy. However, you run out of special characters as you add other note durations to the list, so you will eventually need an additional form to indicate numerically the duration of the note (e.g. 3/128 th note). The octave relative to middle C could be indicated by a digit in front of the note name: 0C is middle C -1C is one octave below 1C is one octave above This would avoid context sensitivity. The duration could be indicated by either special characters or numeric values after the note name: C' or C1/2 for a half C` or C1/3 for a third C= or C1/4 for a quarter note C- or C1/8 for a eighth note C+ or C1/16 for a sixteenth note The concatenation of several durations would represent the sum of their seperate durations. Sharp and flat could be indicated by the characters # and b respectively front of the note name (which would be a capital letter). Length, note, and octave seem to be the types of data we need to represent, and this is just the `tip of the iceberg'. If there were a standard to follow, we would have an easier time of developing the software to manipulate it. I'd like to develop something to assist entering music using GNU emacs, and a translator to MuTeX in order to typeset melodies. I'll eventually post something to the net.... If there isn't an ascii format, perhaps there are a few binary or text formats which have addressed similar problems. So far, MuTeX is the only text format I've seen, and it doesn't seem to be very well-known. Rich -- Rich@Rice.edu ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jul 90 02:25:14 GMT From: Alvin Henry White <Alvin%cup.portal.com%portal%fernwood@net.uu.uunet> Subject: Time change without pitch change To: music-research@prg Message-ID: <31559@cup.portal.com> Recent discussion has included books on massageing waveforms. I am interested in the ability to change time without changing pitch. This then allow one to set a locally made tape of a poetic reading of a commercial such as "Eat at Joe's diner, on the corner of nth and etc." to the prerecorded classical or other musical background. In the discussion of a book by F. Richard Moore called ELEMENTS OF COMPUTER MUSIC I think I heard mention of pitch change without time change. If anyone knows if time change without pitch change is also contimplated I would like to know. Also other source. It seems someone also mentioned that it might take sixty seconds of large scale number crunching to get one second of sound. Parallel processing may improve this and some of the supercomputer centers might need extra work. Imagin patching a duet of Michael Gorbechev and Ronald Regan singing what a friend we have in jesus or the "international." ------------------------------ End of Music-Research Digest